I wonder if you just don't get it or if you are failing completely at empathy.
Do you realize that your question is, in essence, whether transexuality truly exists?
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Everyday Biphobia
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I wonder if you just don't get it or if you are failing completely at empathy.
Do you realize that your question is, in essence, whether transexuality truly exists?
@Robert.Evans : do you truly expect any of us to fear God's judgement about homosexuality, bisexuality, transgenderism or anything else in the LGBT spectrum?
In all honesty, that strikes me as a rather mediocre conception of God. Were I a Christian, I'm willing to bet I would hold very little sympathy or respect for such conceptions.
In all honesty, that strikes me as a rather mediocre conception of God. Were I a Christian, I'm willing to bet I would hold very little sympathy or respect for such conceptions.
-Peacemaker-
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hehehe...I thought I'd try my hand at a little humility for once. I think I could score with you
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I have to say though, right? It would be wrong of me not to point it out. I have no doubt that no one will listen to me. So what's new!
hehehe...I thought I'd try my hand at a little humility for once. I think I could score with you
Sure you do. I'm aware of that.
In my sexual economy, currency is measured and weighed with ego.
My sincere opinion?
You must be kidding, and with a very poor and unadvisable sense of humor at that.
No self-respecting person should say the things you just did, regardless of how religious or how Christian he or she could conceivably be.
It is not even a matter of faith, but rather of basic decency, of sincerity and common sense.
TLDR: your beliefs are no excuse to disrespect human beings just like you, and that does include silly assumptions that God will disapprove of them being who they are.
You are lucky I am not Christian, for that makes me comparatively tolerant of your mistake.
This is one of the poorest, sickest jokes I ever heard. Not the first time, but still true.
Nothing is new, but I am stubborn like that.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
You are entitled to your opinion. But there is more at stake than upsetting someone's feelings, which was not my intention.
-Peacemaker-
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As I said, a man must be confident bordering on cocky. It's served me well far more often than it's failed me. If I don't believe I can score with you, who will...? BTW, I'm just having a little fun with you. I'm celibate. You couldn't have me if you tried
Which is why you abhor me. And you expect us to be wary of God's judgement! Such nerve.
What do you mean by "must" here? That you are confortable with that stance, I assume?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Really? I wonder.
There is. There is the moral character of homophobes and deniers, at the very least.
And that is assuming that I am right in my belief that there is no God to eventually ask him what he was thinking.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I was suggesting that having the sensitivity not to hurt somebody's feelings just to make a point would be a good starting point. More empathy, less dogma.
You're right, of course. Sorry. Sometimes I have trouble attempting to switch between perspectives.
-Peacemaker-
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No my question is: is there a better "treatment" than destroying healthy sex organs and pumping a body full of hormones? Was some other type of secular treatment at least tried?
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
You treated it as if it were deterministic. It is absolutely data that needs to be accounted for, it's also literally old news.
Which is why I stated it in an aside and used the word "could."
That that arousal pattern is still higher than in straight identified individuals. And it's not really "quite minimal" it's simply about 50% of the other. None of this says in the slightest that it's questionable whether male bisexuals exist which is how you started in this thread. Why are you so focused on this being a truth?
A Look Back At Bisexuality Studies And Their Weird, Troubling History
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/health/23bisexual.html?_r=0
There is no scientifically effective treatment for gender dysphoria that does what you're suggesting. Secular psychology and psychiatry (why call it "medicine" with scare quotes as if you think it is not really medicine?") require evidence. Therapy to make you not gay or make you not trans is both ineffective and damaging.
-Peacemaker-
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My stance on that is time tested and playa approved
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Then you have failed at accepting that a transexual does, in fact, know what transexuality is.
To your own satisfaction, I don't doubt. But to state that you must have it is a bit inaccurate at the very least.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Thank you for adding to the examples in this thread. A thread to discuss examples of bi and transphobia, erasure, and monosexism, and the examples keep pouring in, and not necessarily from those who are sharing their own experiences but by those who are actively bringing the examples here. These things are so powerful that even uninvited they show up.
It's not right or wrong, it's straight up rude.
This isn't as easily answered. Some are just fine with accepting themselves, some may just cross dress on occasion, some dress, switch roles, and take hormones but nothing more, and some need further treatment, up to genital surgery. It depends on the severity of the dysphoria, and why seeking specifically a gender therapist with an education and background in working with transgender people is important. And of course it depends on what the individual wants to actually do. Many keep their transgender feelings and lives entirely private and completely behind closed doors, as to them the risks outweigh the benefits and they are comfortable with their level of functionality. Where I am at, ever since I was a little kid I have wanted to be free of having a penis and testicles, to be able to be female, and a few times (even as a kid) I have tried to cut them off. That is the extent of how much I accept a male body, and I've even tried to find someone who does underground body modification so I can at least be free of having testicles (everything is else is needed to be reshaped for bottom surgery).
But there is no just accepting your birth sex and going along on your happy way. As in the case of MtFs, even before hormones are brains are already feminized (this happens in utero), and our female identity is internal (FtMs have a masculinized brain and internal male identity). We can fight it, we can deny, but it never goes away and the stress, anxiety, and depression of dysphoria corrodes and eats away at us. Though each individual has hers and his own needs of how far they need to go to be at peace (or the closest thing to knowing peace), just accepting it and living with it tends to cause depression, drug and alcohol abuse, suicide, and other problems that plague the transcommunity. Social rejection and transphobia also add to these, but they are only a scratch on the surface when you can't even live with your own self.