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Everyday Biphobia

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
To your own satisfaction, I don't doubt. But to state that you must have it is a bit inaccurate at the very least.

In fairness to you I have seen a particular type of woman that is actually attracted to weak, unsure men. Often times they end up bossing these types of guys around. If you're weak, unconfident, and unsure of yourself take heart gentlemen, there just may be an "angel" out there for you.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No my question is: is there a better "treatment" than destroying healthy sex organs and pumping a body full of hormones? Was some other type of secular treatment at least tried?
Our own bodies pump us full of hormones. Though artificial hormones tend to come with a slightly elevated risk of things that naturally are a risk with natural hormones, our bodies are already full of them and there are many, many other ways to manipulate them without medical HRT, though they are not as effective.
And the sex organs are not destroyed. They are reshaped into a desired form, and in the case of MtFs, the vagina is fully functional and even to someone trained (such as a gynecologist) looks no different than the vagina of a woman who has had a full hysterectomy.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
In fairness to you I have seen a particular type of woman that is actually attracted to weak, unsure men.

Fair enough, but that is not my point. Let me ask again: in which sense do you need to be "confident bordering on obnoxiousness or arrogance" (not the exact words, I know, but I trust you understand what I mean)?

Maybe you find it necessary for some sort of perceived personal need or goal, and that is fine. But it is probably wise to have a clear notion of what that need or goal is. It is certainly not like you have been forbidden from having some other attitude, now is it?

Most promising of all, by having such a clear understanding you may conceivably find out at some point that whatever price you pay to keep that stance would give you better, more fulfilling results by being allocated to some other stance.

There [is definitely a certain kind of joy that is possible only in relationships where that attitude is not present. And I have no reason to doubt that you could be a far happier person by allowing yourself that.


Often times they end up bossing these types of guys around. If you're weak, unconfident, and unsure of yourself take heart gentlemen, there just may be an "angel" out there for you.

My experience with such polarized relatioships is that they are simply not worth the trouble, regardless of whether the dominant partner is the man or the woman.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
My experience with such polarized relatioships is that they are simply not worth the trouble, regardless of whether the dominant partner is the man or the woman.
Indeed. I know my relationships work because neither of us has to be in charge all the time, and while there are times I or my partner lays down "the law" as it were, mostly we're encouraging each other to be better - we both push the other to go to the doctor, to get stuff done we say we're going to do, and we split those tasks.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
In fairness to you I have seen a particular type of woman that is actually attracted to weak, unsure men. Often times they end up bossing these types of guys around. If you're weak, unconfident, and unsure of yourself take heart gentlemen, there just may be an "angel" out there for you.

My experience as a domme shows otherwise. Many times, men who request to be dominated are typically high-powered men who are used to getting their own way. I am involved with two men who fit that profile quite easily, and they live in the swanky houses, drive the fast expensive cars, and have a lot of money, time, and booty calls at their disposal.

They've approached me with secret desires to be dominated completely and totally by a woman who approaches them unequivocally as a female superior. Once we agree on a contract, I do my work.

Currently I'm not a professional, but if anything is apparent, I have a back up career in place.

Again, a lot of assumptions abound in regards to human sexuality that operate on a strict binary. It just doesn't work that way when we go from theory to praxis.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
But we should always speak the truth.

Or do you really mean you must always voice your opinion?

In any case your statement is far too crude for my taste, I prefer the Buddhist notion of Right Speech, as described here in AN 5.198 ( a Buddhist sutta ):

"Monks, a statement endowed with five factors is well-spoken, not ill-spoken. It is blameless & unfaulted by knowledgeable people. Which five?
"It is spoken at the right time. It is spoken in truth. It is spoken affectionately. It is spoken beneficially. It is spoken with a mind of good-will."

It almost sounds like something Christ might have said.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Fair enough, but that is not my point. Let me ask again: in which sense do you need to be "confident bordering on obnoxiousness or arrogance" (not the exact words, I know, but I trust you understand what I mean)?

Maybe you find it necessary for some sort of perceived personal need or goal, and that is fine. But it is probably wise to have a clear notion of what that need or goal is. It is certainly not like you have been forbidden from having some other attitude, now is it?

Most promising of all, by having such a clear understanding you may conceivably find out at some point that whatever price you pay to keep that stance would give you better, more fulfilling results by being allocated to some other stance.

There [is definitely a certain kind of joy that is possible only in relationships where that attitude is not present. And I have no reason to doubt that you could be a far happier person by allowing yourself that.
.

I can't turn off my confidence, it's who I am. Women just happen to be attracted to confident men. If you don't believe that then I don't know what to tell you. All I preach is pushing that confidence as far as possible. Arrogance however is a flaw, if confidence becomes arrogance it has gone too far. I think TRUE CONFIDENCE is quiet and understated not brash. It should be obvious that a man believes in himself by how he carries himself without him boasting and being obnoxious.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
I can't turn off my confidence, it's who I am. Women just happen to be attracted to confident men. If you don't believe that then I don't know what to tell you. All I preach is pushing that confidence as far as possible. Arrogance however is a flaw, if confidence becomes arrogance it has gone too far. I think TRUE CONFIDENCE is quiet and understated not brash. It should be obvious that a man believes in himself by how he carries himself without him boasting and being obnoxious.

Bigotry on the other hand is entirely unattractive. As is hijacking and derailing a thread about biphobia and transphobia to talk about how sexy you think women find you.

Guess what, this thread isn't about you. Go somewhere else and talk about how awesome you are to people who care. It is distinctly OFF TOPIC here.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
I can't turn off my confidence, it's who I am. Women just happen to be attracted to confident men. If you don't believe that then I don't know what to tell you. All I preach is pushing that confidence as far as possible. Arrogance however is a flaw, if confidence becomes arrogance it has gone too far. I think TRUE CONFIDENCE is quiet and understated not brash. It should be obvious that a man believes in himself by how he carries himself without him boasting and being obnoxious.

I'm attracted to confidence in both men and women.

It's what my husband said that made his heart sing when we met, that I have always known what I want and what I don't want, and that I live by my rules.

He also says that looks go only so far. A confident woman makes his knees go weak. I believe him too, since I've seen that multiple times from him. ;)
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Bigotry on the other hand is entirely unattractive. As is hijacking and derailing a thread about biphobia and transphobia to talk about how sexy you think women find you.

Guess what, this thread isn't about you. Go somewhere else and talk about how awesome you are to people who care. It is distinctly OFF TOPIC here.

Yeah. Some people just can't help but want to make a discussion thread intended to not be about them strictly about them anyway.

Where's my whip?...
 
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