Everyday Sexism by Females

[freethinker44]

Funny thing is, I can think of better examples than this myself.

So then post them. This is in the general debates section so it's not restricted to men only.

 

[Alceste]

So then post them. This is in the general debates section so it's not restricted to men only.

I would, but I'm feeling stymied by the qualifier "by females". Every example of anti-male sexism I can think of is not unique to females (just as examples of anti-female sexism are not unique to males), so I don't know how to make my observations relevant to the OP.

But here's one common form of misandry: as a long time babysitter and nanny, I've observed a pronounced tendency for most parents to assume men and boys generally can not be trusted with the job. I've even noticed that reaction in myself, upon learning the parents of a preschooler I was caring for had hired a teenage male babysitter when I was unavailable. My immediate reaction was "ooh, that's too risky - I'm not comfortable with this".

But because, as a feminist, I tend to police myself for reactionary manifestations of sexist conditioning, that reaction was soon overcome with reason.

It's still very common though. I have a major advantage as a child minder over any male who would seek this type of work because parents (of both genders) tend to assume men who like little kids like them for the wrong reasons.

 

[freethinker44]

I would, but I'm feeling stymied by the qualifier "by females". Every example of anti-male sexism I can think of is not unique to females (just as examples of anti-female sexism are not unique to males), so I don't know how to make my observations relevant to the OP.

I don't like it either. I don't think any example of sexism is unique to one gender, even anti-suffrage wasn't unique to men, there were women against suffrage too. If sexism was strictly one gender against another then by that definition sexism wouldn't exist. So I didn't use strictly "only sexism uniquely from females" because if we went by that there wouldn't be a single post here because they would all be off-topic, and the same would be true if it was strictly "only sexism from males". And I assume the OP didn't mean sexism strictly from females because there was never an objection.

But here's one common form of misandry: as a long time babysitter and nanny, I've observed a pronounced tendency for most parents to assume men and boys generally can not be trusted with the job. I've even noticed that reaction in myself, upon learning the parents of a preschooler I was caring for had hired a teenage male babysitter when I was unavailable. My immediate reaction was "ooh, that's too risky - I'm not comfortable with this".

But because, as a feminist, I tend to police myself for reactionary manifestations of sexist conditioning, that reaction was soon overcome with reason.

It's still very common though. I have a major advantage as a child minder over any male who would seek this type of work because parents (of both genders) tend to assume men who like little kids like them for the wrong reasons.

Yep. You know, when I take my daughters out without my wife I feel like I have to make a point to show that I am their father. It might just be in mind, I don't know, but I feel like I've broken some kind of social norm or something.

 

[Alceste]

I don't like it either. I don't think any example of sexism is unique to one gender, even anti-suffrage wasn't unique to men, there were women against suffrage too. If sexism was strictly one gender against another then by that definition sexism wouldn't exist. So I didn't use strictly "only sexism uniquely from females" because if we went by that there wouldn't be a single post here because they would all be off-topic, and the same would be true if it was strictly "only sexism from males". And I assume the OP didn't mean sexism strictly from females because there was never an objection.



Yep. You know, when I take my daughters out without my wife I feel like I have to make a point to show that I am their father. It might just be in mind, I don't know, but I feel like I've broken some kind of social norm or something.

Yup. You're picking up on a real thing. If you take your daughters out in public without their mum to chaperone, you can be certain that some of the people you cross paths with will probably size you up as a likely sex offender. It's retarded, but it's the world we live in. Maybe you could call it the flip side of rape culture that also sucks for men. I walk around knowing people are sizing me up as a rape victim, you walk around knowing people are sizing you up as a rapist.

 

[dust1n]

"Worked perfectly. Was like stealing candy from a feminist. They screamed rape a lot be we got what we wanted."

"You don't get it.

Those pillars only carry weight because the masses will hear their messages.

Spreading these sorts of false messages will show those who are NOT hardcore feminists that these people are nuts. Slowly but surely people will simply turn away from it all.

The pillars will be the only thing left standing by the time we're done. "

"I imagine recent events are beginning to shed light on it already. I had reservations about Feminism before but only in the last couple months have I really turned against them (and taken less liberal stances in general). I'm certain that the ones who "can still be saved" will at least become skeptical in the next few months. The ones in deeper would probably take more personal effort to convince and not be swayed by anything we do collectively ('cause you can just blame 4chan and move on). "

"We will disect them. The sceptical ones will turn away the hardcore ones will get more hardcore and then even the naive cattle will leave as soon as they cant earn any "progressive" points anymore. They will become a fringe group on the internet.

Feminists set up all those logical circles, poor reasoning, lack of logic and name calling but we have a more powerful tool : their very own ideology. Every moron can copy it and the best ones make it look so convincingly that noone can tell if it is a ******* insane feminist or a huge dedicated troll.

They will get smashed, all the ranting and gaining of progressive points will stop. It will be glorious. "

"I've been trolling for two days solid, and my main work is DMs with white feminists who don't think the Father's Day thing "represents the movement".

My persona is a "proud woman of color", and I keep telling them that this was started by PoCs who are hit hardest by the failure of fathers.

Then I tell them they're trust fun "white feminists" who shouldn't "silence the lived experiences of those they have privilege over". Basically I tell them that they can't disagree with a black person.

It's amazing how hurt/angry they get at this. They finally feel what it's like for heterosexual men to be told they're worthless oppressors.

I always end by telling them... "You aren't a real feminist or an ally. Stop claiming to be in this movement because you're clearly part of the systematic machine of patriarchy. White women don't speak for us."

When your goal is to divide people, it's fun to watch the slices get thinner and thinner. The divisions within the SJW movement ensure that they will never last: they'll eat each other.

Get your own account and start out-Jewing the Jew. You'll feel like ******* Morpheus. "

"I think the fact that these feminists can't distinguish real argument from parody is deeply troubling to them.

We tried to fight them with logic for so long, but they always had hug boxes. No more. We have to infiltrate the hug boxes and shift the sands beneath their feet.

Hundreds, thousands of sleeper agents all over social media, in forums, in real life at "conferences"... These people can destroy progressive politics from within. It will become unfashionable to be progressive because so-called progressives will take their rhetoric one step further into absurdity.

And what can they do about it? They're a populist herd. They have no organization. They're disorganized neo-hippies without any strategy besides endless complaint.

Infiltrate and destroy from within. Infiltrate and destroy from within. Infiltrate and destroy from within. "

/pol/ - Politically Incorrect » Thread #31182171

LOL.

These douches seriously think they affect things, HAHA.

/pol/ - Politically Incorrect » Thread #31182171

 

[dust1n]

Be sure to share with your friends:

"Moron.

Once we do this then they will have a mainline to how we are combating them.

******* *******."

"You guys are so ******* blatant, you're only hurting yourself with this ****.

Set up a twitter group, or an IRC channel and organize your **** there numbnuts, doing it here in the ******* open plotting to 'destroy feminism' or whatever just makes you look like idiots and makes them look right.

If you're going to try and organize this ****, atleast TRY and be secretive about it."

/pol/ - Politically Incorrect » Thread #31120916

 

[Riverwolf]

What is rage quitting? Like mass giving-up?

Ever get so frustrated with a video game that you throw the controller across the room?

 

[dust1n]

Ever get so frustrated with a video game that you throw the controller across the room?

LOL. I don't throw things, but I do yell at an inanimate object such as a jump that I can't jump.

 

[Alceste]

"Worked perfectly. Was like stealing candy from a feminist. They screamed rape a lot be we got what we wanted."

"You don't get it.

Those pillars only carry weight because the masses will hear their messages.

Spreading these sorts of false messages will show those who are NOT hardcore feminists that these people are nuts. Slowly but surely people will simply turn away from it all.

The pillars will be the only thing left standing by the time we're done. "

"I imagine recent events are beginning to shed light on it already. I had reservations about Feminism before but only in the last couple months have I really turned against them (and taken less liberal stances in general). I'm certain that the ones who "can still be saved" will at least become skeptical in the next few months. The ones in deeper would probably take more personal effort to convince and not be swayed by anything we do collectively ('cause you can just blame 4chan and move on). "

"We will disect them. The sceptical ones will turn away the hardcore ones will get more hardcore and then even the naive cattle will leave as soon as they cant earn any "progressive" points anymore. They will become a fringe group on the internet.

Feminists set up all those logical circles, poor reasoning, lack of logic and name calling but we have a more powerful tool : their very own ideology. Every moron can copy it and the best ones make it look so convincingly that noone can tell if it is a ******* insane feminist or a huge dedicated troll.

They will get smashed, all the ranting and gaining of progressive points will stop. It will be glorious. "

"I've been trolling for two days solid, and my main work is DMs with white feminists who don't think the Father's Day thing "represents the movement".

My persona is a "proud woman of color", and I keep telling them that this was started by PoCs who are hit hardest by the failure of fathers.

Then I tell them they're trust fun "white feminists" who shouldn't "silence the lived experiences of those they have privilege over". Basically I tell them that they can't disagree with a black person.

It's amazing how hurt/angry they get at this. They finally feel what it's like for heterosexual men to be told they're worthless oppressors.

I always end by telling them... "You aren't a real feminist or an ally. Stop claiming to be in this movement because you're clearly part of the systematic machine of patriarchy. White women don't speak for us."

When your goal is to divide people, it's fun to watch the slices get thinner and thinner. The divisions within the SJW movement ensure that they will never last: they'll eat each other.

Get your own account and start out-Jewing the Jew. You'll feel like ******* Morpheus. "

"I think the fact that these feminists can't distinguish real argument from parody is deeply troubling to them.

We tried to fight them with logic for so long, but they always had hug boxes. No more. We have to infiltrate the hug boxes and shift the sands beneath their feet.

Hundreds, thousands of sleeper agents all over social media, in forums, in real life at "conferences"... These people can destroy progressive politics from within. It will become unfashionable to be progressive because so-called progressives will take their rhetoric one step further into absurdity.

And what can they do about it? They're a populist herd. They have no organization. They're disorganized neo-hippies without any strategy besides endless complaint.

Infiltrate and destroy from within. Infiltrate and destroy from within. Infiltrate and destroy from within. "

/pol/ - Politically Incorrect » Thread #31182171

LOL.

These douches seriously think they affect things, HAHA.

/pol/ - Politically Incorrect » Thread #31182171

Wow. Nice guys.

 

[dust1n]

Wow. Nice guys.

No wonder everyone uses anonymous on that site.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

No wonder everyone uses anonymous on that site.

I still have to give them a one-handed clap for their social engineering.

 

[Secret Chief]

I would, but I'm feeling stymied by the qualifier "by females". Every example of anti-male sexism I can think of is not unique to females (just as examples of anti-female sexism are not unique to males), so I don't know how to make my observations relevant to the OP.

Well the OP was in reference to females, because it looked like a double standard, which rather nonplussed me. However, please feel free to say what's on your mind. It may not be strictly on topic, but if you feel it's appropriate go ahead!

 

[oldbadger]

I would, but I'm feeling stymied by the qualifier "by females". Every example of anti-male sexism I can think of is not unique to females (just as examples of anti-female sexism are not unique to males), so I don't know how to make my observations relevant to the OP.

Oh........ but this is so TRUE!

My brothers-in-law are big tough blokes. When we visit them, neither will come down the road with me to walk our mini-daxie. They dare not. They can only be seen in their tough district with BIG dogs. Why? Because other blokes would laugh at or lose respect for them. But when I walk down the street many female passers-by want to meet little Smew, so it's not the females.

And they gotta hold pint mugs...... their mates would think half-pint mugs are weakish. And they gotta wear clothes that men accept..... oh yes..... they need sexist fueled man-respect from blokes.

I can't be bothered to compile a list......... but I feel sure that the vast majority of sexism directed at men in Britistan is Male generated.

40 years ago there was still a similarly big male-generated list, but in those far away days female-dominated institutions did exhibit some crushing sexism. My first wife was often in hospitals and I learned quick that if I needed to phone the hospital for any reason, any female neighbour posing as my wife's sister could find out ten times as much info, or be redirected ten times more quickly than me.... her husband. One instance out of many. But those days are dead and buried. I have not come across one single instance of female initiated sexism in Kentistan in ..... yonks. My wife telling our friends that I'm absolutely laughably cr-p at putting a duvet in a duvet cover is not sexism....... I'm just cr-p at doing that. (I think my record is 7 minutes and then it had to be taken out, turned 90 degress and put back).

 

[CynthiaCypher]

There is just no such animal as "Everyday Sexism" as you put it in your OP. Sexism is a lifelong thing. Sexism is an institution, it is an edifice that must be dismantled. if "Everyday Sexism" is something real, it is how we live. It just isn't just an action but what something we all believe in. We all believe these roles...that men are suppose to be such and such and women are suppose to be such and such. Sexism is a lifelong obligation to holding up those roles. Sexism is not something you do just everyday because you have a choice. It's part of your character and your culture. It is something you have to awake from and be aware of. "Everyday Sexism" is just a symptom of your lifelong and cultural sexism

 

[freethinker44]

But those days are dead and buried. I have not come across one single instance of female initiated sexism in Kentistan in ..... yonks.

You probably have and you just don't realize it. A lot of it is so ingrained in our society that it's barely noticeable until someone points it out. Like the one Acleste brought up about men not being trusted around younger children, here I am trying to point out everyday sexism and it was such an obvious and perfect example but it didn't even occur to me even though I experience it almost daily.

 

[Secret Chief]

I suppose what I meant by "everyday" was the seemingly banal stuff as opposed to the bigger issues. But yes, it is all of a whole, our culture, our worldview.

 

[dust1n]

You probably have and you just don't realize it. A lot of it is so ingrained in our society that it's barely noticeable until someone points it out. Like the one Acleste brought up about men not being trusted around younger children, here I am trying to point out everyday sexism and it was such an obvious and perfect example but it didn't even occur to me even though I experience it almost daily.

I was already quite aware of a stigma between men and children. Is there all we are talking about here, because I was curious about more than bad office jokes and the weird glances people give one another as they constantly judge one another for everything.

 

[freethinker44]

I was already quite aware of a stigma between men and children. Is there all we are talking about here, because I was curious about more than bad office jokes and the weird glances people give one another as they constantly judge one another for everything.

It's everyday sexism not the most extreme misandry you can think of. But that's cool, I'll be sure to quote you the next time someone brings up casual sexism against females. I'm betting it won't go over too well. Oh wait a minute, is this another example of everyday sexism against men? Sexism against men isn't that big of a deal if it isn't extreme? Sounds pretty sexist to me.

But hold up, could there possibly be more sexism in this statements? Let's see, a woman makes a comment, a man agreeably mentions it, and you respond to the man's quote as the one being invalid. Classic example of men not being allowed to express their feelings or problems. I broke a social taboo and talked about my problems instead of taking it like a man, right? Yep, that's sexist.

 

[dust1n]

It's everyday sexism not the most extreme misandry you can think of. But that's cool, I'll be sure to quote you the next time someone brings up casual sexism against females. I'm betting it won't go over too well. Oh wait a minute, is this another example of everyday sexism against men? Sexism against men isn't that big of a deal if it isn't extreme? Sounds pretty sexist to me.

But hold up, could there possibly be more sexism in this statements? Let's see, a woman makes a comment, a man agreeably mentions it, and you respond to the man's quote as the one being invalid. Classic example of men not being allowed to express their feelings or problems. I broke a social taboo and talked about my problems instead of taking it like a man, right? Yep, that's sexist.

Hmm, what is it again?

Oh yeah, you sees what you want to sees man.

Express your feelings dude.

I am personally so privileged that not only do I get all the privileges single, young, white, men enjoy, but I also get the privileges of never having had a minority or a woman come up and harass me.

I'm rocking like an uber-priveleage, and I don't even have any money.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

All I can think while reading this thread:

"Get back in the shop and make me a table!"