Everyday Sexism by Females

[oldbadger]

You probably have and you just don't realize it. A lot of it is so ingrained in our society that it's barely noticeable until someone points it out.

Yeah..... OK... good point. We don't always see the wood for the trees. true.

Like the one Acleste brought up about men not being trusted around younger children, here I am trying to point out everyday sexism and it was such an obvious and perfect example but it didn't even occur to me even though I experience it almost daily.

I gave a jovial example of how my wife takes the p-ss out of me over my attempts to insert a duvet inside a duvet cover. That case was centered around 'fun in conversation'. But it was also centered on 'fact'.

Insurers have always calculated their premiums from 'risk-factors' based upon past claims, and age groups, disabilities, gender, driving records etc etc have been used (up till last year) ......... and in the same way, if I needed to leave my grandchildren with a professional carer I would want to have the freedom to calculate risks without being called sexist. I would polarise towards female professionals because a very high % of child-sexual-offenders have been discovered to be males. That's risk assessment in action.... not sexism.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

You need to practice your trolling. It's sloppy.

Practice without any inherent talent is often a waste of time.

 

[freethinker44]

[When asked what she would do if her son turned out to be gay] "Yes, I would condemn him, because I believe that a real man must be a real man," she said in an Ukrainian television show called Lie Detector. "God created man for procreation, it is the nature. The man for me is the support, the strength of... I won't accept a gay son."

"Two girls together - not the same thing as the two men together," she continued. "It seems to me that lesbians look aesthetically much nicer than two men holding their hands or kissing."

Tatu 'lesbian' Yulia Volkova makes homophobic slur: All The Things She Said singer says she wouldn't accept her son if he was gay - People - News - The Independent

 

[samosasauce]

It's not okay, of course. Nobody in their right mind argues that any form of prejudice is alright. Well, except when it comes to those who have committed past acts of purposeful violence (individual people, not groups)

 

[Estro Felino]

Every day.

I don't see it as a Men's Issue. I don't see it as a Feminism issue. I see it as a person issue, a society issue.

I am a male in the UK; my perception is not a day goes by without me hearing casual sexist comments invariably from females. I don't find such attitudes acceptable from anyone, but if such stuff was opined by males in mixed company they would get shot down. Why is it acceptable to come from the mouths of females?

If you don't give any example, it is difficult we can understand how sexist these women's attitude is.
I'm very curious. And a bit shocked...because all the women I know have an almost maternal attitude towards men.

 

[oldbadger]

If you don't give any example, it is difficult we can understand how sexist these women's attitude is.
I'm very curious. And a bit shocked...because all the women I know have an almost maternal attitude towards men.

Hi, Hay....
.... that maternal attitude-to-men could be regarded as sexist....
.... As in 'Look at you, man, like baby.... can't do anything for yourself. Can't cook, can't be tidy...' etc etc kind of attitude. OK?

Personally, there are not enough minutes left in my life to bother about petty sexism, either way. Let me explain.... I do care about equality of sexes and sexuality, and much more. In fact I have always been an advocate of equality in all human areas, whenever possible. But when I bump into a person whose whole 'self' is fixated into fanatical 'up-tight' 'put-you-right' petty sexism, my instant reaction is to want to tell them to 'f--k off and get a life'

But that's me! Now let's see if anyone is up-tight!

 

[Estro Felino]

Hi, Hay....
.... that maternal attitude-to-men could be regarded as sexist....
.... As in 'Look at you, man, like baby.... can't do anything for yourself. Can't cook, can't be tidy...' etc etc kind of attitude. OK?

No...you misunderstood me. By maternal I don't mean that kind of attitude.
I mean that women tend to being empathetic towards men...and do any thing not to hurt their feelings. as a mother would

 

[Secret Chief]

If you don't give any example, it is difficult we can understand how sexist these women's attitude is.
I'm very curious. And a bit shocked...because all the women I know have an almost maternal attitude towards men.

Post #10 as example.

You sure about the word maternal?

 

[Estro Felino]

Post #10 as example.

You sure about the word maternal?

yea...I am sure. okay I read post n10. I got what you mean; those women are very frequent, nowadays, and that is is a pity. One of them is my sister.
I don't want to sound judgmental but those women have hopelessly lost their femininity. In fact my sister makes me sick. She should become lesbian...because she has nothing feminine.
If a woman wants to look feminine, she's supposed to be empathetic towards her partner.

 

[Secret Chief]

OK. Personally, I wouldn't want to say everyday sexism means a loss of femininity.

 

[freethinker44]

OK. Personally, I wouldn't want to say everyday sexism means a loss of femininity.

Right. Ironically though, to say a loss of femininity is sexist, is itself sexist.

 

[Estro Felino]

Right. Ironically though, to say a loss of femininity is sexist, is itself sexist.

well...this thread is about males who complain about women's behavior.
And I have given an answer; most women mistreat their men because they have lost their femininity

 

[freethinker44]

well...this thread is about males who complain about women's behavior.
And I have given an answer; most women mistreat their men because they have lost their femininity.

Evidence: men mistreat each other, frequently. So women are just imitating men. so ...does a woman who imitates men deserve to be considered feminine?

Sorry, I tried to think of a a better response but I'm speechless. You're wrong on so many levels.

 

[Alceste]

well...this thread is about males who complain about women's behavior.
And I have given an answer; most women mistreat their men because they have lost their femininity

Lol.

 

[Secret Chief]

Right. Ironically though, to say a loss of femininity is sexist, is itself sexist.

It's, like, metasexism.

 

[Secret Chief]

Actually today one of my female colleagues said that I was more like a girl because unlike men I'll apparently talk about "any old sh/t."

Deep down, I like to think it was a compliment.

 

[Riverwolf]

yea...I am sure. okay I read post n10. I got what you mean; those women are very frequent, nowadays, and that is is a pity. One of them is my sister.
I don't want to sound judgmental but those women have hopelessly lost their femininity. .... She should become lesbian...because she has nothing feminine.

"Lost" their femininity? Or rather, they never had it to begin with. Having behaviors traditionally associated with "feminine" is not a prerequisite for being a woman. I don't see why that should in any way be regarded as "hopeless", as if it's a bad thing.

And for the record, if your sister is not sexually attracted to women, she cannot be a lesbian no matter how much of a tomboy she might be. Sexual orientation has nothing whatsoever to do with personality. I'm a man who has more feminine qualities than masculine, but I'm not sexually attracted to other men at all, and thus can never "become" gay. You don't "become" any sexual orientation later in life. You get one at birth and keep it for the rest of your life.

 

[Estro Felino]

"Lost" their femininity? Or rather, they never had it to begin with. Having behaviors traditionally associated with "feminine" is not a prerequisite for being a woman. I don't see why that should in any way be regarded as "hopeless", as if it's a bad thing.

And for the record, if your sister is not sexually attracted to women, she cannot be a lesbian no matter how much of a tomboy she might be. Sexual orientation has nothing whatsoever to do with personality. I'm a man who has more feminine qualities than masculine, but I'm not sexually attracted to other men at all, and thus can never "become" gay. You don't "become" any sexual orientation later in life. You get one at birth and keep it for the rest of your life.

well...in many countries (like mine) males denigrate those men who have feminine qualities like sensitiveness, kindness and sweetness.
I am an example. You are not born that way. In fact I deliberately decided to have those qualities...and I succeeded.
But when males remark those qualities and denigrate them, I don't feel insulted.
au contraire...it sounds like a compliment to me.

so I guess I have the right to make fun of those women who have decided to act like men.
and when those women, who deliberately decided to act like men, are denigrated, they should take it as a compliment.
as I do

 

[Riverwolf]

well...in many countries (like mine) males denigrate those men who have feminine qualities like sensitiveness, kindness and sweetness.

Plenty of men do that here, too. I don't associate with them.

I am an example. You are not born that way. In fact I deliberately decided to have those qualities...and I succeeded.

I've had these qualities ever since I can remember.

But when males remark those qualities and denigrate them, I don't feel insulted.
au contraire...it sounds like a compliment to me.

That's what I do. I'm proud to be Ergi (Old Norse word that basically meant "unmanly").

so I guess I have the right to make fun of those women who have decided to act like men.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

and when those women, who deliberately decided to act like men, are denigrated, they should take it as a compliment.
as I do

They "should" take it as they will depending on the context. We don't control how we feel about things. If someone's words hurt, they hurt no matter how much you try to take it as a compliment.

In Viking times, I wouldn't have been able to be a proud Ergi; if someone called me that, it would have hurt. It only doesn't hurt now, because nobody knows the word anymore.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

well...this thread is about males who complain about women's behavior.
And I have given an answer; most women mistreat their men because they have lost their femininity

Isn't it a tad more likely that some women mistreat their men because they are in the wrong and are fully capable of having sexist thoughts themselves?