Draka
Wonder Woman
Another rude condescending remark erroneously saying that theists are somehow lower than atheists. That atheists are somehow better than theists. Wrong. :tsk:
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Everyone, whether they choose to admit it or not is religious.
- Thread starter Flat Earth Kyle
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Another rude condescending remark erroneously saying that theists are somehow lower than atheists. That atheists are somehow better than theists. Wrong. :tsk:
Twig pentagram
High Priest
My opinion is that I don't have beliefs.
Twig pentagram
High Priest
Beliefs and opinions are not the exact same.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
While I think religion can be a solitary thing, I think the argument that is being proposed would suggest that the community is implied in the idea that decisions are made either through interactions with the greater human community, or through the subconscious elements passed down through evolution (ancestor worship?
).Is this your belief?
Or an opinion?
If opinion, what do you believe that beliefs are?
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Note the word, "religious." Not everyone has such a system.
Twig pentagram
High Priest
That is what I think.
I think beliefs are something believed. I don't believe in nothing.
I either know and think or I don't know and think.
McBell
Unbound
Interesting that in your haste you forgot to read the whole definition you presented.
Try reading it this way:
A personal system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices.
An institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices.
Please note the word religious...An institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices.
waitasec
Veteran Member
what the hell are you talking about?
there are a lot of definitions for the word religion...you're just chasing your own tail here
what does the term
'loosing my religion' mean to you?
Splarnst
Active Member
Right. You're playing with the meanings of words. You can do that, of course, but don't forget it and that you'll reach conclusions that don't make sense unless you're in on the game.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
You appear to be suffering from a case of circular reasoning. The key word in the definition is highlighted in red. It is very specific. If one does not have religious beliefs your "argument" falls right off the edge of the nearest cliff. So that slays your thinking that "Everyone, whether they choose to admit it or not, is religious" right there. The statement is simply not true as not everyone has religious beliefs. Need anything else?
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Oops, I see that you beat me to the punch. Well done, my friend.
DOH!
I guess that sort of kills this thread, as three times, pays for all.
Flat Earth Kyle
Well-Known Member
Oh okay, noting the word religious in the definition of religion is defining the word with the word. It is as you say circular reasoning to do so
according to dictionary.com the word religious means
"of, pertaining to, or concerned with religion: a religious holiday."
pretty much something or someone that has something to do with religion
okay, what is religion? Religion - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
a system of beliefs
What is ardor? ardor means loyalty
What is faith? firm belief in something for which there is no proof
What is an opinion? belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge
What is a thought? something (as an opinion or belief) in the mind <he spoke his thoughts freely>
Religion - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Wow, so long as someone has an opinion on something they are religious.
according to dictionary.com the word religious means
"of, pertaining to, or concerned with religion: a religious holiday."
pretty much something or someone that has something to do with religion
okay, what is religion? Religion - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
a system of beliefs
What is ardor? ardor means loyalty
What is faith? firm belief in something for which there is no proof
What is an opinion? belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge
What is a thought? something (as an opinion or belief) in the mind <he spoke his thoughts freely>
Religion - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Wow, so long as someone has an opinion on something they are religious.
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Flat Earth Kyle
Well-Known Member
Someone can be religious without believing in some kind of god.
Flat Earth Kyle
Well-Known Member
Losing my religion would mean to change one's system of beliefs.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Some might call it regaining their sanity. :drool:
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
What insecurity drives you to need to define everyone as religious?
It is implied that you are attempting to insult non-religious people by calling them religious. If you yourself are religious, then isn't it rather sad that you find your own position insulting?
It is implied that you are attempting to insult non-religious people by calling them religious. If you yourself are religious, then isn't it rather sad that you find your own position insulting?
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I suspect you are adept at back-peddling a bicycle too.
Personally, I think you are reallllllllly stretching this to make it fit. I'm just saying.
Flat Earth Kyle
Well-Known Member
I'm just stating it how it is. The truth hurts sometimes.
Whenever someone says anything, they risk someone else taking it as an insult.
That is just the risk you take when you open your mouth to say something.
Whenever someone says anything, they risk someone else taking it as an insult.
That is just the risk you take when you open your mouth to say something.