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Evolution and Creationism both have equal value and scientific evidence to support them.

Danmac

Well-Known Member
The fact that i do not believe "male" is a good characteristic of a "sole being" which is part of my defination of "God".
IT, is not a preference. "He" is.
Actually when the Bible refers to God as "HE" (ekeinos) in the original Greek it is referring to his masculine qualities. The word for Spirit is pneuma, which is neutral in the original Greek, while the corresponding in Aramaic is (rucha), which is in the feminine. As our creator God is not a physical being as are we. He is neither male nor female. He is a Spirit, which possesses personality attributes, which are masculine and feminine.
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
Actually when the Bible refers to God as "HE" (ekeinos) in the original Greek it is referring to his masculine qualities. The word for Spirit is pneuma, which is neutral in the original Greek, while the corresponding in Aramaic is (rucha), which is in the feminine. As our creator God is not a physical being as are we. He is neither male nor female. He is a Spirit, which possesses personality attributes, which are masculine and feminine.
Therefore IT is an it.
offtopic, sorry.
 

DeitySlayer

President of Chindia
Actually when the Bible refers to God as "HE" (ekeinos) in the original Greek it is referring to his masculine qualities. The word for Spirit is pneuma, which is neutral in the original Greek, while the corresponding in Aramaic is (rucha), which is in the feminine. As our creator God is not a physical being as are we. He is neither male nor female. He is a Spirit, which possesses personality attributes, which are masculine and feminine.

So why does Jesus constantly refer to him as 'the Father' and never 'the Mother' or 'God'? More than a hint of contradiction, no?
 

DarkSun

:eltiT
So why does Jesus constantly refer to him as 'the Father' and never 'the Mother' or 'God'? More than a hint of contradiction, no?

Well, you could be right, and Christians are sexist by giving God male attributes. Or maybe it could be because Mary was the Mother, and the society of the time was homophobic. Hell, it still is.
 
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McBell

Unbound
Well, you could be right, and Christians are sexist by giving God male attributes. Or maybe it could be because Mary was the Mother, and the society of the time was homophobic. Hell, it still is.
Seems to me that the culture back in that time extremely sexist.

For instance, they believed that the man literally planted a seed in the woman and the woman was nothing more than an incubator for the seed.
This was so that the man did not have to burden himself with pregnancy when the crops needed tended, etc.
 

DeitySlayer

President of Chindia
As our creator God is not a physical being as are we. He is neither male nor female. He is a Spirit, which possesses personality attributes, which are masculine and feminine.

Uh-huh. Care to elaborate on this then? Seeing as Jesus was male, and the Father is apparently male also, does that make the Holy Spirit double-female in order to balance this out?
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
Uh-huh. Care to elaborate on this then? Seeing as Jesus was male, and the Father is apparently male also, does that make the Holy Spirit double-female in order to balance this out?

The bible says that God is a Spirit.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

God created male and female on earth for procreation.

Ge 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:

In heaven there is neither male nor female for all are sexless beings.

Mt 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

When we think of masculine and feminine, we think of male and female. What you are doing is trying to reduce God to a biological being. He is neither male nor female, but is differentiated by personality attributes that can be equated to male and female. The Father along with the Holy Ghost possess "character" attributes that can be equated to that of a man. Judgment, punishment, power, etc. What we see in Jesus is pleadings of mercy, gentleness, meekness, humility, kindness, self sacrifice, the kinds of things you would see in a mother in her dealings with her own children. Remember these are "personality" attributes, and not biological.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Ahem--evolution, creationism? (Please note that Danmac has a genius for derailing threads. I don't know if it's ADD or what, but it takes heroic effort to keep the thread on topic once he enters.)
 
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McBell

Unbound
Ahem--evoluton, creationism? (Please note that Danmac has a genius for derailing thread. I don't know if it's ADD or what, but it takes heroic effort to keep the thread on topic once he enters.)
Seems if you want to have a thread where you can keep Danmac on topic (I know I know) you will likely have to get him into a one on one thread.

Good luck with that.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Example of one previously given to explain my 50:50 position, evolution and creationism cancel each other out, both have equal value and scientific evidence to support them.
I have left out the posters name to avoid "calling out" another member.
But I would like to know if anyone who agrees with this statement would care to provide the scientific "Creationist" evidence that is equal to the evidence supporting the ToE.

Anyone?

Like Auto said....
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
Seems if you want to have a thread where you can keepDanmac on topic (I know I know) you will likely have to get him into a one on one thread.

Good luck with that.
I recently tried that. The other person chose a DIR thread. I guess that is a safe place to keep a weak argument intact. btw. I don't see you doing anything but hurling insults. Let me review some of your posts and see how many of them actually have to do with the topic at hand. I will be pressed to find any.
 

McBell

Unbound
I recently tried that. The other person chose a DIR thread. I guess that is a safe place to keep a weak argument intact. btw. I don't see you doing anything but hurling insults. Let me review some of your posts and see how many of them actually have to do with the topic at hand. I will be pressed to find any.
Seems your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Gee, let us go back and see what kind of input YOU have had in this thread...

Oh yeah, just like every other thread you enter about evolution, you spend all your time trying to divert everyone's attention away from your blatant ignorance of evolution.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Danmac, would you care to provide the scientific "Creationist" evidence that is equal to the evidence supporting the ToE
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
I recently tried that. The other person chose a DIR thread. I guess that is a safe place to keep a weak argument intact. btw.
:biglaugh: you poor boy... you asked to learn about my faith, but robbed of your ability to proselytize you took your ball and went home... :biglaugh:

You never cease to amuse.

wa:do
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
:biglaugh: you poor boy... you asked to learn about my faith, but robbed of your ability to proselytize you took your ball and went home... :biglaugh:

You never cease to amuse.

wa:do

I took my ball and went home because I was invited to a game where the opponent didn't really want to play. Weak beliefs need to be guarded.
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
Ahem--evolution, creationism? (Please note that Danmac has a genius for derailing threads. I don't know if it's ADD or what, but it takes heroic effort to keep the thread on topic once he enters.)

And what does this post have to do with the topic?
 
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