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Evolution as it relates to Religion

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
That can be more damaged than the coccyx. If you know of any such organ, muscle or flesh please identify it/them.
I suggest you look at a diagram of the human body.
You might notice that it's better to have an object to hit bone then to go into certain orifices.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I suggest you look at a diagram of the human body.
You might notice that it's better to have an object to hit bone then to go into certain orifices.

Oh for ****s sake. What orifices?

So what you are saying is you have no idea, you were told all this crap by your preacher or whatever so screw the evidence, screw the facts, its better to get a broken spine than a bruised muscle because thats what i was told by a medical nobody. I really cannot believe you even think that way
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Oh for ****s sake. What orifices?

So what you are saying is you have no idea, you were told all this crap by your preacher or whatever so screw the evidence, screw the facts, its better to get a broken spine than a bruised muscle because thats what i was told by a medical nobody. I really cannot believe you even think that way
I wasn't told this by any preacher. It's common sense. If you don't know what orifice you have near your tailbone I guess you need to go back to school.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I wasn't told this by any preacher. It's common sense. If you don't know what orifice you have near your tailbone I guess you need to go back to school.

Its common sense that a broken spine is much better than a fall on the bum. Good one god.

Please be so good as to inform us what sort of damage will the coccyx protect the rectum from?

There is a considerable difference between your version of common sense and human anatomy.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Yes it is, when you could literally have a punctured organ vs a bruise on your tailbone. You have never fallen on a stick?

Orifice or organ? Make up your mind.

So what are the evolutionary chances that enough sticks have been fallen on to cause the spine to extend to protect the anus? Only not quite enough so that it doesn't actually protect anything.

Sorry, i think you are talking out of your coccyx here,
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I suggest you look at a diagram of the human body.
You might notice that it's better to have an object to hit bone then to go into certain orifices.

Did your study ever get past 9th
grade biology?
You seem trying to give lessons to
educated people.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
If you don't have anything to add why bother?
The very thing that is question of you
tucked into my observation.

Do you really - really think you know better
than everyonevwho finds fault in you foolishness? ( see useless vestigial organ, for one example)
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Because the tailbone has a designed function just like every other part. It's not an extra accessory that doesn't do something important.
The problem is that there is no evidence that it was designed. That is just our belief and a billions of interpretations of how that belief may have manifested.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Because the tailbone has a designed function just like every other part. It's not an extra accessory that doesn't do something important.
The problem I see is that many people think vestigial means that the structure so described is being labeled as functionless. That is not true. Something vestigial is a vestige of what it was before. It can have a function. It may be a very useful function. The application of "vestigial" is in reference to former condition and not present function.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
It actually has several.

Besides protecting you if you fall on your butt:
Several muscles converge from the ring-like arrangement of the pelvic (hip) bones to anchor on the coccyx, forming a bowl-shaped muscular floor of the pelvis called the pelvic diaphragm. The incurved coccyx with its attached pelvic diaphragm keeps the many organs in our abdominal cavity from literally falling through between our legs. Some of the pelvic diaphragm muscles are also important in controlling the elimination of waste from our body through the rectum.
I cannot imagine how it protects from falls. The glutes better serve that function.

Again, vestigial does not mean the tailbone doesn't have a present function. It just isn't a full fledged tail anymore.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Lots of the " tails" aren't even in the same region as the tailbone! To conclude they have anything to do with evolution is ridiculous.
You are probably referring to what is called a psuedotail. These do not arise as a retention of the vestigial tail that exists during embryonic development.

Why do some people have the ability to wiggle their ears if we do not use our ears that way? It is a vestigial trait.

Why do birds have the genes for teeth?

It is easy to conclude evolution from the variety of vestigial structures known as well as the underlying genetics for those structures. The presence of genes that no longer function in most people (or other animals) are most reasonably explained by evolution.
 
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