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Evolution based on random mutations and natural selection

Sapiens

Polymathematician
Separate from mind and thought completely and read the Old Testament of the bible. Pure consciousness is a metaphor for "God."

It's a book on consciousness, life, science, the human body, the human brain and how its a duplicate of the universe, DNA/RNA, proteins, enzymes, energy, light, intelligence in motion, the cosmos, truth, what it means to be a conscious being instead of an unconscious being, etc. It explains consciousness and where it is, where it derives from, what it is, and much more.

It's pleasing to see some branches of science exploring the "non-physical." (Consciousness-dark matter-etc.) they really have no choice but to.
Yeah, you religionists love it when we scientists look into things that were once solely in your purview; until we find out how it actually works and that there's no god there.
 

Unification

Well-Known Member
Yeah, you religionists love it when we scientists look into things that were once solely in your purview; until we find out how it actually works and that there's no god there.

Assumption: that's of a lower unevolved mind.
I am anti-religion and myth.
I love when science proves religion and myth wrong. I love science.
"There's no god there." That's where you are wrong. You have an image and preconceived notion and image of what "God" is just as religions.
 

Unification

Well-Known Member
Yeah, you religionists love it when we scientists look into things that were once solely in your purview; until we find out how it actually works and that there's no god there.

All science does is indirectly prove the invisible force that holds everything and balances everything together. Whether your brain has evolved enough to know and be aware of this or not.
 

Unification

Well-Known Member
Yeah, you religionists love it when we scientists look into things that were once solely in your purview; until we find out how it actually works and that there's no god there.

"You religionsists" "your purview" .... Assumptions assumptions. I care for you, separate from thought and conquer your emotions. It's okay, relax... we are a family tree and none is superior, in any way.

Usually agenda, and bias, and closed minded comes from a line of mental conditioning by the environment one is in, family/friends/education/religion,experience, and/or bitterness and emotion due to some kind of tragedy.

For anyone claiming the oneness and family tree of everything with Phylogenetics, and attacking others with assumption of superiority and an ego, Yet hypocritically claiming superiority of knowledge, preaching an all physical and an all matter universe and science yet indirectly and being unaware of believing in santa, God, pink unicorns, or what those physical laws mean and how no human body is exempt from them, as well as proof of non-physical and ignoring it just as religions ignore science..Isn't anyone whose posts are worth claiming as "truth." Closed mindedness, bias, agenda.... Are just as deceiving as religion.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
"You religionsists" "your purview" .... Assumptions assumptions. I care for you, separate from thought and conquer your emotions. It's okay, relax... we are a family tree and none is superior, in any way.

Usually agenda, and bias, and closed minded comes from a line of mental conditioning by the environment one is in, family/friends/education/religion,experience, and/or bitterness and emotion due to some kind of tragedy.

For anyone claiming the oneness and family tree of everything with Phylogenetics, and attacking others with assumption of superiority and an ego, Yet hypocritically claiming superiority of knowledge, preaching an all physical and an all matter universe and science yet indirectly and being unaware of believing in santa, God, pink unicorns, or what those physical laws mean and how no human body is exempt from them, as well as proof of non-physical and ignoring it just as religions ignore science..Isn't anyone whose posts are worth claiming as "truth." Closed mindedness, bias, agenda.... Are just as deceiving as religion.
Not to mention unparsable and nonsensical run-on sentences. I have no assumption of superiority, but I do have a demonstrable correctness of insight. So without the claim of superiority there is no hypocrisy. It is important to keep an open mind, but some seem to keep their mind so open that their brains fall right out.
 

McBell

Unbound
"You religionsists" "your purview" .... Assumptions assumptions. I care for you, separate from thought and conquer your emotions. It's okay, relax... we are a family tree and none is superior, in any way.

Usually agenda, and bias, and closed minded comes from a line of mental conditioning by the environment one is in, family/friends/education/religion,experience, and/or bitterness and emotion due to some kind of tragedy.

For anyone claiming the oneness and family tree of everything with Phylogenetics, and attacking others with assumption of superiority and an ego, Yet hypocritically claiming superiority of knowledge, preaching an all physical and an all matter universe and science yet indirectly and being unaware of believing in santa, God, pink unicorns, or what those physical laws mean and how no human body is exempt from them, as well as proof of non-physical and ignoring it just as religions ignore science..Isn't anyone whose posts are worth claiming as "truth." Closed mindedness, bias, agenda.... Are just as deceiving as religion.
Please be so kind as to explain how your above quoted post is something, anything, other than a sad attempt at dragging science down to the same level of religion.
 

Unification

Well-Known Member
Please be so kind as to explain how your above quoted post is something, anything, other than a sad attempt at dragging science down to the same level of religion.

Some folks preach scientific laws and don't understand what they mean. Ones that are also just "assumed," also. Any ego, pride, divide, agenda, closed mind, bias would be defeating the purpose... In anything. The problem is not science or scripture, the problem is the human mind and it's own interpretations. I'm unsure where you believe I'm trying to drag science down, I'm dragging down anything that is untrue, creates divide, because I care for mankind, collectively and objectively, not my own ego or agenda, or hard-headed-emotional-cling on pride to something because I am not conditioned or conformed to anything. Cognitive dissonance is a disease and mankinds enemy that affects all humans, ones of science and ones of religions. It's always easy to throw the stone, without looking in the mirror.
 

McBell

Unbound
Some folks preach scientific laws and don't understand what they mean. Ones that are also just "assumed," also. Any ego, pride, divide, agenda, closed mind, bias would be defeating the purpose... In anything. The problem is not science or scripture, the problem is the human mind and it's own interpretations. I'm unsure where you believe I'm trying to drag science down, I'm dragging down anything that is untrue, creates divide, because I care for mankind, collectively and objectively, not my own ego or agenda, or hard-headed-emotional-cling on pride to something because I am not conditioned or conformed to anything. Cognitive dissonance is a disease and mankinds enemy that affects all humans, ones of science and ones of religions. It's always easy to throw the stone, without looking in the mirror.
Ah.
Thank you for the clarification.
 

Unification

Well-Known Member
Not to mention unparsable and nonsensical run-on sentences. I have no assumption of superiority, but I do have a demonstrable correctness of insight. So without the claim of superiority there is no hypocrisy. It is important to keep an open mind, but some seem to keep their mind so open that their brains fall right out.

For the being in more of a pure conscious state in the brain, the opposite is actually true... We are fulfilled by all life, at complete peace and bliss of mind, everything and nothingness are the same, content with anything, we are not dictated by emotion, but by pure love and oneness, no partiality, more truth is never enough truth and it's effortless, it and life comes to us, we no longer have to utilize the mind that chases us around in never ending circles, the brain and it's components are firing on all cylinders in perfect harmony. . A completely renewed higher state of conscious and fulfillment with life and everything.
 

McBell

Unbound
For the being in more of a pure conscious state in the brain, the opposite is actually true... We are fulfilled by all life, at complete peace and bliss of mind, everything and nothingness are the same, content with anything, we are not dictated by emotion, but by pure love and oneness, no partiality, more truth is never enough truth and it's effortless, it and life comes to us, we no longer have to utilize the mind that chases us around in never ending circles, the brain and it's components are firing on all cylinders in perfect harmony. . A completely renewed higher state of conscious and fulfillment with life and everything.
Double talk does not impress those who see double talk for what it is.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
For the being in more of a pure conscious state in the brain, the opposite is actually true... We are fulfilled by all life, at complete peace and bliss of mind, everything and nothingness are the same, content with anything, we are not dictated by emotion, but by pure love and oneness, no partiality, more truth is never enough truth and it's effortless, it and life comes to us, we no longer have to utilize the mind that chases us around in never ending circles, the brain and it's components are firing on all cylinders in perfect harmony. . A completely renewed higher state of conscious and fulfillment with life and everything.
When your done navel gazing and being awestruck by the whichness of why, be sure and come back around, even the most callow sophomores sometimes grow up.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
I'd say that with a few exceptions today religionists make poor scientists. The exceptions to this "rule" seem to be concentrated in Math and Physics.
 

Unification

Well-Known Member
When your done navel gazing and being awestruck by the whichness of why, be sure and come back around, even the most callow sophomores sometimes grow up.

I'm sorry if that offended you and if the infamous, unoriginal and the myth of "brains falling out" is a routine, redundant, and an excuse from the same religion.
Glory is yours. If it makes you feel better stroking your own condescending ego, glad I can assist. Best wishes, pal.
 

Monk Of Reason

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
"The mind is non-matter." Entire point :). Thank you, we do agree then.

It only becomes a real issue in an all-material and physical universe, and an all physical brain point of view.
It does not. An all material world can still have non-matter. For example light exists. Light is non-matter. That is as material as it gets. The issue of the "mind" as a personal construct of who you are is an illusion.
 

Unification

Well-Known Member
In theory if we had sensitive enough measuring equipment we could measure exactly what goes on in the brain of a fully conscious person. Then if we for example slowly render this person unconscious we should be able to find out exactly which processes are required for consciousness.

Source to source.
 

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