PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
Oh, that is quite easy. I am the software that runs on this body.
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Evolution has never been observed
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Oh, that is quite easy. I am the software that runs on this body.
So, you are advocating creationism, eh?:sad:
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
...I do not understand the relavence.
It just comes as a copy of what our parents had. Its procreation or reproduction. Creationism is something different.
Oh, that is quite easy. I am the software that runs on this body.
Do not pretend please. We have had this merry-go-round at least 3 times before.
Ok. For the gallery. Have you seen any software ask "Who Am I?" Have you seen any uncreated software?:no:
So, its duplicating software through procreation. :slap: Even then it implies creation.
Have you seen any software ask "Who Am I?" Have you seen any uncreated software?:no:
(Some scientists only ask for evidence from others but pass as truth their own speculations without an iota of evidence from everyday observation).
Without an Iota of evidence? Don't be silly. Everything we know about biology is that something doesn't come nothing. You will need to be more specific about where creation comes into play. Biological evolution shows it progresses over time through mutations and the mutations are never intelligent choices.
Do not pretend please. We have had this merry-go-round at least 3 times before.
Ok. For the gallery. Have you seen any software ask "Who Am I?" Have you seen any uncreated software?:no:
So, its duplicating software through procreation. :slap: Even then it implies creation.
Have you seen any software ask "Who Am I?" Have you seen any uncreated software?:no:
(Some scientists only ask for evidence from others but pass as truth their own speculations without an iota of evidence from everyday observation).
Do you understand the difference between software and a living organism and why that analogy is faulty? If not, I'll be more than happy to explain.
Don't be silly. Have you seen any software ask "Who Am I?" Have you seen any uncreated software?
Please don't jump into discussion when you don't understand the context.
Kindly explain. But that analogy is not mine. I hope you know that.
Why do you assume I don't know the context? I understand it fine. The problem is your seeing reproduction and calling it creation which is disingenuous. If a mac and windows computer reproduced on their own it would be a hybrid without any need of help from bill gates or steve jobs. The question is how far back we need to go before we can say it was designed since organisms have been reproducing fine without the "creator".
Where was 'reproduction' even mentioned in exchange between PolyHedral and me?
You acknowledege that for a software there is a Bill or a Steve.
(You call me disingenuous and silly. I will just remind you that I have not labelled you with such words ever).
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I'm well aware that many people have proposed false analogies. I don't care who originally said it, much like paley's watch maker analogy, if it's false it's false.
I'll explain. We know that software is designed not because of how complex it is or anything else. We know it's designed because we have knowledge about how software is designed, we know about the manufacturers, we have millions of examples of software being created and we have no examples of software naturally occuring. Now, the natrally occuring is the key word here, living organisms are natrally occurring. We have no evidence that living organisms are designed and tons of evidence that they occur naturally. Your analogy is a category error and fails on every level. So please stop making false analogies.
Well I don't mean anything by it but I was responding to your tone. My apologies.
That is the thing. He said he was software and you brought in creation. I said it was reproduction not creation.
Software has a designer but does DNA? DNA replicates itself as do cells. Where does the creator step in except maybe in the genesis phase. After that reproduction takes care of itself.
Idav
I had just two questions: Have you seen any software ask "Who Am I?" Have you seen any uncreated software?
You are supporting my point. I did not make any analogy. I asked two questions that were meant to show the untenabilty of the analogy. I was showing that equating a 'software' with "I" awareness (as proposed by PolyHedral) leads to unintended conculsions. I humbly request you to review last few posts.
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Yeah, nice trap questions. Self acknowledgment is separate issue from showing signs of life. I've never heard a plant say "who am I" which is what I would compare a computer to. Have you ever seen a created human?
I don't care if you didn't create the analogy, from what I gathered you were promoting the analogy. If I was wrong then I appologize, but thats the way it came accross from your previous posts.
Again Idva, you are an expert in obfuscation, or you do not go to the main point. We were not talking of plants. And there are two questions.
That's too bad. Will you kindly read the posts. There is no need to apologize.
I just re-read it, and it looks to me like you're premoting the analogy. And I'll answer your question. No, I've never seen any software ask, "who am I?" and I've never seen any uncreated software. Whats your point?