themadhair
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You can be both.Hey you mispelled agnostic in the religion field of your profile. It looks like it says atheist.:sw:
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You can be both.Hey you mispelled agnostic in the religion field of your profile. It looks like it says atheist.:sw:
Hey you mispelled agnostic in the religion field of your profile. It looks like it says atheist.:sw:
An atheist does not believe God doesn't exist, he just doesn't believe in Gods existence.Actually an atheist doesn't say god does not exist, they believe he does not exist, there's a difference.
Actually an atheist doesn't say god does not exist, they believe he does not exist, there's a difference.
Some do, some don't.An atheist does not believe God doesn't exist, he just doesn't believe in Gods existence.
Actually an atheist doesn't say god does not exist, they believe he does not exist, there's a difference.
So, a person can believe that god does not exist, and at the same time accept the possibility that it does?
And how do you calculate those odds?What is the probability of God existing? Very slim. At least a God with the properties as described by the Abrahamic religions.
Yeah. Because you cannot disprove God, it's irrational to say "God does not exist". It's just as irrational as saying "God does exist".
Yeah. Because you cannot disprove God, it's irrational to say "God does not exist". It's just as irrational as saying "God does exist".
So, instead of working with does exist vs does not exist, we work in probabilities. What is the probability of God existing? Very slim. At least a God with the properties as described by the Abrahamic religions.
What makes you believe that ?I would put it another way - One can neither prove, nor disprove the existence, or nonexistence of any Deity(s) at this point in time. -
What makes you believe that ?
It is actually a statement that is in my view uterly false. It rests on the premise that any "deity" is just any "abstract something that someone calls god".
But when you look at the "concrete implementation" of supposed deities (meaning their attributes, traits and certain supposed acts) then you can formally disproove some combinations within the context of normal human logic.
Comments like this are why I love my signature.I would put it another way - One can neither prove, nor disprove the existence, or nonexistence of any Deity(s) at this point in time. -
I've often wondered that. It doesn't make sense to me at present.And how do you calculate those odds?
There are only 3 "omni- attributes", and they go together just fine (for the panthesitic/panentheistic "god") (being as they are integrally related). Any others are inventive, to say the least.Exactly, such as the co-existence of all the "omni-" attributes of the proposed Judeo-Christian God.
Exactly, such as the co-existence of all the "omni-" attributes of the proposed Judeo-Christian God.
Actually this is mostly a stupid trick made by non-theists that should know better.I disagree.
I've heard it said that an omnipotent God cannot be all powerful, since He cannot create a wall He cannot jump over.
Actually this is mostly a stupid trick made by non-theists that should know better.
Logically omnipotent of course can only mean that God could do all that is possible.
By mere definition you cant do the impossible or it wouldnt be impossible.
Hence its not needed to be able to do a logical impossibility in order to be called omnipotent.
Apart of that one of course may say that certain omnis contradict each other.
One of the combinations is omniscience and omnipotence.
In any case we already however will find trouble definining the words really in the first place