Evolution is False and Impossible

[ragordon168]

the ToE is still a theory as there is no PROOF that it is true. the theory was based on observations that darwin made on his voyage and observations made by others over the years. there has been no definative proof as evolution takes eons and major ecological changes to truley be observable

you never know with global warming and the changes thats causing we made see a species adapting to survive (but not humans, we're to stubborn to change and to busy arguing that evolution is wrong to actually evolve)

 

[monta]

Count up all the pieces of evidence you can think of general relativity. Now count up all the pieces of evidence for biological evolution.

They are both large stacks, but the evolution stack is much larger.

I don't disbelieve gravity, I just don't understand it.

 

[themadhair]

the ToE is still a theory .....

Can someone please explain to me how any theory can ever cease to be theory??

One of the foundation of modern medicine is the germ theory of disease. Apparently still a theory.

People have walked on the moon thanks to the use of the theory of gravity and the theory of aerodynamics. Still theories apparently.

My computer is based upon semiconductor theory. Apparently still a theory.


Can anyone point to a single example of a theory that ever became something other than a theory????? Or do you folks really not think about what you write?????

 

[themadhair]

I don't disbelieve gravity, I just don't understand it.

If you have any questions I can try to help you out.

 

[Valjean]

the ToE is still a theory as there is no PROOF that it is true. the theory was based on observations that darwin made on his voyage and observations made by others over the years. there has been no definative proof as evolution takes eons and major ecological changes to truley be observable

you never know with global warming and the changes thats causing we made see a species adapting to survive (but not humans, we're to stubborn to change and to busy arguing that evolution is wrong to actually evolve)

Ragordon, you're new here, so you probably don't realise how many eyes roll when someone says "just a theory." "Theory," in science, doesn't mean speculation or conjecture, as it does in colloquial parlance, and scientific theories are never proven. Supportive evidence may accumulate to the point where there is no reasonable doubt, as in the round Earth theory, biological evolution theory or the germ theory of disease, but they will never be proven. Proof is for mathematics.

Those who doubt these well-supported theories are almost surely ignorant of their particulars.

 

[Vile Atheist]

the ToE is still a theory as there is no PROOF that it is true. the theory was based on observations that darwin made on his voyage and observations made by others over the years. there has been no definative proof as evolution takes eons and major ecological changes to truley be observable

you never know with global warming and the changes thats causing we made see a species adapting to survive (but not humans, we're to stubborn to change and to busy arguing that evolution is wrong to actually evolve)

Of course. No proof. Other than the fossil record. And genetics. And anatomy. And fact that all the predictions made by evolution have all been verified. And the fact that we can find practical applications for evolution (i.e. designing aircraft), and yet, I don't hear you arguing about Boeing.

But of course, you're right. Once you discount all that - and more - countless peer-reviewed papers - then sure....evolution isn't true. Once you pull your head out of your ***, you wake up and smell the roses.

Please, provide one piece of evidence that contradicts the theory of evolution. Entertain me tonight.

 

[Autodidact]

the ToE is still a theory as there is no PROOF that it is true. the theory was based on observations that darwin made on his voyage and observations made by others over the years. there has been no definative proof as evolution takes eons and major ecological changes to truley be observable

you never know with global warming and the changes thats causing we made see a species adapting to survive (but not humans, we're to stubborn to change and to busy arguing that evolution is wrong to actually evolve)

I'm thinking of changing my user name to "Nothing in science is ever proven," just to save time typing.

 

[Nepenthe]

I'm thinking of changing my user name to "Nothing in science is ever proven," just to save time typing.

Scientific proofs and theories... Every school kid should have a basic understanding of how scientists use the terms before they're in the 3rd grade.

 

[ragordon168]

Of course. No proof. Other than the fossil record. And genetics. And anatomy. And fact that all the predictions made by evolution have all been verified.

your right no proof, just observations and theories based on on the available data. and how have the predictions been proved? evolution takes eons so how has it been proved

Once you pull your head out of your ***, you wake up and smell the roses.

i could say the same to you. i think evolution is correct but i said there was no definative way to know. all the evidence says its true but there is no piece of evidence that undeniably proves it. at best we can eliminate all reasonable doubt as has been done with the theory of gravity. observations are not proof!

Please, provide one piece of evidence that contradicts the theory of evolution. Entertain me tonight.

dont ask for particulars cos im useless at remembering things like that. an expiriment on some kind of insect showed that the mothers experiences in life affected the physiology of the offspring. offspring from a mother exposed to a stimulus (not mutagenic) were physiologically different from those from a mother that had not been exposed.

they said this leaned more to another theory that theorised that the parents life affected the childs (i.e giraffes have long necks because their ancestors stretched their necks to reach high trees and each successive generation had longer and longer necks.)

 

[ragordon168]

Ragordon, you're new here, so you probably don't realise how many eyes roll when someone says "just a theory." "Theory," in science, doesn't mean speculation or conjecture,

sorry about that i'm going on the way i was taught about it in high school. a theory was an idea that was yet to be fully proved. once it had been proven (i.e newtons laws, ohms law, snells law, etc) it became a law. as evolution has not yet been fully proven it is still a theory.

might be absolute s**** but thats the way i was taught

 

[Valjean]

your right no proof, just observations and theories based on on the available data. and how have the predictions been proved? evolution takes eons so how has it been proved

Doesn't always take eons, ragordon, especially with rapidly reproducing species, and it has been observed in action.
And you need to disencumber yourself of that "proof" term, my friend. People will jump on you every time you misuse it here.
There's no proof that the Earth circles the Sun, either. The best you'll get in science is overwhelming evidence.
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[Diederick]

A cute list, reminds of the many other fake examples (whether deliberate or not) on the net, and especially YouTube.

 

[ragordon168]

ah good point forgot about bacterial evolution to develop resistance to drugs.

thanks for the tip. so what is your distinction between a theory and a law?

thats my problem with evolution there is no overwhelming evidence, there is a lot of evidence but none that destroys all doubts. the expiriment i mentioned a few posts back is an example of that - it shows that evolution is not the only way organisms change. so if evolution is only true most of the time then how can it be seen as an absolute truth like some of the physics laws?

 

[Jose Fly]

ragordon,

First, you should go back to the high school teacher who told you that "a theory was an idea that was yet to be fully proved" and slap him or her in the face. They taught you wrong. As folks have explained, in science "theory" is the pinnacle of achievement for an explanitory framework like evolution.

Second, the "overwhelming evidence" of evolution is that we see it happen, right before our eyes, every single day.

 

[Kerr]

your right no proof, just observations and theories based on on the available data. and how have the predictions been proved? evolution takes eons so how has it been proved

Correction, it takes eons for organisms such as humans to evolve (well, to be honest we evolve all the time, we just do not notice the difference very much until some time has passed by). For other organisms, such as bacteries, it takes much, much shorter time. We have even observed it. Of course, they have the ability to cheat by exchanging DNA, but it still counts.

 

[Kerr]

i could say the same to you. i think evolution is correct but i said there was no definative way to know. all the evidence says its true but there is no piece of evidence that undeniably proves it. at best we can eliminate all reasonable doubt as has been done with the theory of gravity. observations are not proof!

Evolution is actually both considered a theory and a fact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact

 

[themadhair]

so what is your distinction between a theory and a law?

One is expressible in a succinct mathematical formulation and the other isn’t. Some, such as the laws of motion, are true by definition. Given that theories are used to explain laws, observations and facts I really have to feel for the crapness of your science teacher.

 

[themadhair]

at best we can eliminate all reasonable doubt as has been done with the theory of gravity.

Ermm....you do know that there is more evidence for evolutionary theory than the theory of gravity??? Prove me wrong here, because I'd wager money I could present more evidence for evolutionary theory than you could present for gravitation theory.

 

[Autodidact]

your right no proof, just observations and theories based on on the available data. and how have the predictions been proved? evolution takes eons so how has it been proved

Of course it hasn't been proved. NOTHING IN SCIENCE IS EVER PROVED. The standard in science is not proof but evidence. And the evidence in favor of the Theory of Evolution (ToE) is overwhelming, which is why modern biology is based on it.

i could say the same to you. i think evolution is correct but i said there was no definative way to know. all the evidence says its true but there is no piece of evidence that undeniably proves it. at best we can eliminate all reasonable doubt as has been done with the theory of gravity. observations are not proof!

Science never knows anything definitively. That's math. We know as definitively as we ever know anything in science that ToE is correct, which means that any reasonable person should accept it. The only reason to reject ToE is if you reject science itself.

 

[Autodidact]

Ragordon, you're new here, so you probably don't realise how many eyes roll when someone says "just a theory." "Theory," in science, doesn't mean speculation or conjecture,

sorry about that i'm going on the way i was taught about it in high school. a theory was an idea that was yet to be fully proved. once it had been proven (i.e newtons laws, ohms law, snells law, etc) it became a law. as evolution has not yet been fully proven it is still a theory.

might be absolute s**** but thats the way i was taught

If that's what you were taught in high school, it was educational malpractice. A theory is a complete scientific explanation for a set of related phenomena that accounts for all the facts.

As used in science, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.

from here.