Evolution is False and Impossible

[Autodidact]

it's not that it seems rediculous to me, but thats not how it happened.

Because you, ignorant as you are, know better than all the world's biologists, who have been using the scientific method to study the matter for decades.

just think about it, us comming to life just out of knowhere without any guidance?

What are you talking about? Can we get back to evolution?

think for a moment, all the million little particles and "things" in our body all working perfectly all in order just happened to be there by chance?

You are making up an imaginary theory and then arguing against it. What you are talking aout bears no relationship to the actual ToE. So, again, do you want to learn what it actually says, or continue to look like an arrogant ignoramus?

DNA and RNA included. surely you know what functions they have and how complicated they are, you can't be serious that they just happened to come to existence in our body by chance?

If you knew what ToE actually says, you would understand that it does not assert that any such thing happens by chance. In fact, it's the exact opposite.

 

[Autodidact]

no my god and your god has spoken in the quran, i'm just passing his words down to the rest of you.

How do you know?

 

[Autodidact]

you didn't answer anything as far as i can tell.

evolution is a slow process, so lets say the heart was created firts (not neccessaraly a humans heart) then after some thousands of years blood came a long........what....a heart cannot work without blood. so just how in the world did th eheart survive?

or anything for that matter, how did chance know that the heart does not work without blood, or that a heart nedds to be devided into 2 sides each with 2 sub groups? please explain that to me cos it seems it's either you are not paying attention or me.

and this time answer the question. you or who ever wants to can.

Eselam: The more you post, the more you reveal your ignorance. You literally don't know the first thing, the most kindergarten understanding, of ToE. My only question is, do you or don't you want to know what ToE says?

 

[tumbleweed41]

evolution is a slow process, so lets say the heart was created firts (not neccessaraly a humans heart) then after some thousands of years blood came a long........what....a heart cannot work without blood. so just how in the world did th eheart survive?

Evolution of the Heart Over Time

or anything for that matter, how did chance know that the heart does not work without blood, or that a heart nedds to be devided into 2 sides each with 2 sub groups? please explain that to me cos it seems it's either you are not paying attention or me.

Evolution of the Heart Over Time

and this time answer the question. you or who ever wants to can.

Evolution of the Heart Over Time



Really dude, that is the the most ignorant question I have heard yet.:slap:

 

[Autodidact]

It's not ignorance that I mind; after all, I am ignorant about more than I'm not. What bothers me is ignorance trying to assert authority, as though ignorance were a source of knowledge, rather than the opposite.

 

[Perfect Circle]

while we are on the subject, darwin was never a real biologist, he never got any degrees in macro nor micro biology nor human anatomy nor anything that has to do with biology appart from some classes.

so many peole will suffer in hell due to this one man, and his punishment may very well be greater for leading so many of you astray. what a shame.

alright hold your horses what is more rediculous:

apes became humans

humans were created, just as everything is created?

it's not that it seems rediculous to me, but thats not how it happened.

just think about it, us comming to life just out of knowhere without any guidance?

think for a moment, all the million little particles and "things" in our body all working perfectly all in order just happened to be there by chance?
DNA and RNA included. surely you know what functions they have and how complicated they are, you can't be serious that they just happened to come to existence in our body by chance?

have a look at this video here and tell me if you actually believe that, that car could ever come to exist without anyone such as a human guiding it:

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Seriously... These arguments are all a bit rediculous. You could maybe read up on the ToE before you argue against it. And, (correct me if I'm wrong), but isn't painted wolf a biologist? It seems like the height of arrogance, to me, to tell a biologist to "think for a moment" about a subject that they have basically devoted their academic life to...

 

[painted wolf]

yes I believe in god... Though the Native American view of Creator is a bit different than the Muslim view.

evolution is a slow process, so lets say the heart was created firts (not neccessaraly a humans heart) then after some thousands of years blood came a long........what....a heart cannot work without blood. so just how in the world did th eheart survive?

Actually, "blood" came first. There are still a lot of critters out there that survive with 'blood' and no heart. Mostly simple worm like critters.

or anything for that matter, how did chance know that the heart does not work without blood, or that a heart nedds to be devided into 2 sides each with 2 sub groups? please explain that to me cos it seems it's either you are not paying attention or me.

Animals went from having what is called an "open" circulatory system... where the blood sort of just sloshes around via the movement of the animal.
Next you have animals that have a semi-closed circulatory system where there is a simple heart that is just one chamber and it just moves blood in one direction, usually against gravity.
Next you have a truly closed circulatory system, in this the heart is really becoming important. Usually you have a two chambered heart or a "one and a half" chambered heart.
By the time fish arrive you have a three chambered heart and a truly 'modern' circulatory system. Most animals have a three chambered heart. (fish, amphibians, most reptiles)

Alligators and crocs have a three and a half chambered heart. They can actually adjust how their heart beats to act as a three chambered heart or more like a four chambered heart. (they use this to switch between active high-oxygen behavior like hunting to low-oxygen behavior like resting at the bottom of a river... this is why they can stay under for so very long.)

Birds and mammals have finished what the crocs started and we have fully four chambered hearts.

So as you can see, there is a progression in the development of the heart, from none to simple and growing in complexity until you get to us.

Your only mistake was to look at the issue from the wrong direction...

wa:do

 

[Jose Fly]

Eselam has made it quite clear that he has no interest in listening to, or learning anything from any of us. He unequivocally stated that recognizing evolution as valid science dooms one to hell.

It is absolutely impossible to have any sort of discussion with such a person.

 

[Valjean]

Eselam can't seem to get his head around the "selection" part of evolution. He doesn't seem to understand that there are mechanisms involved; that it's not just pure chance or a roll of the molecular/genetic dice suddenly materializing a rabbit from a hat.

What's extraordinary is that he seems to regard creatures magically poofing into existence a reasonable and commonsense "mechanism."

 

[Autodidact]

Is that true, eselam? You believe that accepting ToE would be a sin, so you are completely biased against it, and no matter how much evidence we showed you, even if the evidence overwhelmingly supported it, you would still reject it?

 

[Jose Fly]

Eselam can't seem to get his head around the "selection" part of evolution

He can't because he believes the consequenses are eternally dire. It's not a question of intelligence; it's a question of religion-fueled fear.

Is that true, eselam? You believe that accepting ToE would be a sin

He said so in Post #71:

so many peole will suffer in hell due to this one man [Darwin], and his punishment may very well be greater for leading so many of you astray. what a shame

I seriously doubt Eselam wants to become one of those who "will suffer in hell" because they accepted evolution as valid science.

 

[Breathe]

My question is.. why would the belief in evolution send someone to Hell?
One has to have a really negative view of God to think He actually cares you believe we evolved..

 

[Valjean]

I thought Islam revered scholarship and reason. Wouldn't disparaging God's gift of intelligence be sinful? Wouldn't it make a man no different from an animal?

 

[Jeremy Mason]

exactly my point, how can we not be related to him?

It depends on how plastic we are...

 

[darkendless]

I thought Islam revered scholarship and reason.

:biglaugh:

Checked out the thread "the Quran is free of errors" lately?

 

[Gharib]

hey guys why all the hate and arrogance?

i don't see why anyone has to get angry over nothing, we can just talk like humans you know. oh my bad i forgot i'm the only human around. :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

ok it seems i mixed up evolution with how we came to be, so take it easy some of you ok. i'm human after all, i do get mistaken sometimes, you guys should try it some time. :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

ok ok my serious face is on, i appologise for the cheap jokes. i hope no one takes it personally or offencive.

 

[Gharib]

My question is.. why would the belief in evolution send someone to Hell?

i believe that killing is ok, even though god say it is not, so i will go to heaven right?

if you are a muslim, Allah (swt) says that he created us, we never evolved from some common ancestor, infact people have been turned to pigs and apes, they probably got turned to chimps thats why you see the close relationship. but who knows appart from god?

and talk about nonsense i am very curious to read the responses of some of you on this.

One has to have a really negative view of God to think He actually cares you believe we evolved..

no god does not care, he is in no need of us, but we are of him. so if we don't obey him then will darwin come to save any of you, will a chimpanze speak and say i am related to blah blah by so and such through a slow process called evolution?

think about it, a chimp telling god that humans and apes are related.:biglaugh:

 

[Gharib]

He can't because he believes the consequenses are eternally dire. It's not a question of intelligence; it's a question of religion-fueled fear.


He said so in Post #71:
I seriously doubt Eselam wants to become one of those who "will suffer in hell" because they accepted evolution as valid science.

who gave you the authority to speak in my name?

 

[Willamena]

i believe that killing is ok, even though god say it is not, so i will go to heaven right?

if you are a muslim, Allah (swt) says that he created us, we never evolved from some common ancestor, infact people have been turned to pigs and apes, they probably got turned to chimps thats why you see the close relationship. but who knows appart from god?

and talk about nonsense i am very curious to read the responses of some of you on this.

When did Allah create you? I mean you, personally.

 

[Gharib]

Because you, ignorant as you are, know better than all the world's biologists, who have been using the scientific method to study the matter for decades.

lets just reverse that to yourself by also adding:

some men that were once babies and no nothing of their future are going to tell god how humans came to be?

What are you talking about? Can we get back to evolution?

this is were i got mixed up.

You are making up an imaginary theory and then arguing against it. What you are talking aout bears no relationship to the actual ToE. So, again, do you want to learn what it actually says, or continue to look like an arrogant ignoramus?
If you knew what ToE actually says, you would understand that it does not assert that any such thing happens by chance. In fact, it's the exact opposite

try convincind atheists that god created us and then he set evolution in motion, just as you are asserting.

look i know about evolution, do we have to go through this so many times.

evolution is a proces that uses "natural" selection (the reason why i reffer to chance) where the species that best addopt to the habbitat will survive and reproduce blah blah blah, and we can go on forever.