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Evolution is not observable admits Jerry Coyne
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Darwin barely understood evolution, by modern standards. So what if he was studying something else?
Tom
Mohammad Nur Syamsu
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Is an opinion a fact?
Mohammad Nur Syamsu
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You can't prepare for the depths to which evolutionist arguments sink.
It is a fact that one has an opinion.
How is it an opinion? If it has been proven through time tested and observable methods?
Then you are ill-prepared for this topic.
Mohammad Nur Syamsu
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An opinion is what has been proven?
Does this mean you know little about Darwin and our modern degree of understanding, so you just take a cheap shot?
Tom
Mohammad Nur Syamsu
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When in doubt, posture like you have authority.
That does not answer the question. Try answering my question before supposing what I think.
Here, I will even ask again more plainly. How, is evolution, a scientific theory, only an opinion?
Mohammad Nur Syamsu
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I can't operate at your level of ignorance about what an opinion is.
An opinion is "a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge." We can't operate at your level of ignorance about what an opinion is.
So what you are saying is you are too uninformed to answer a direct question, and can only respond via circular logic.
The inability to understand reason is strong with this one.
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Mohammad Nur Syamsu
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Kindergarden rhetorics.
An opinion is arrived at by choosing about what the agency of a decision is. Where choosing is to make one of alternative futures the present, and agency is that which makes a decision turn out the way it does.
A fact is obtained by evidence forcing to produce a 1 to 1 model of what is evidenced.
This all fits in the creationist conceptual scheme, where the mechanism of creation is choosing. So there are 2 categories creator and creation, what is in the creator category is a matter of opinion, and what is in the creation category is a matter of fact. This also applies to human creation. For example when considering Bach as creator of his music, then the soul of Bach chose where to put the dots on the musicsheet. The existence of the soul is a matter of opinion, which means to say one can either choose the soul is real or not real, and either conclusion would be valid. So even with readily observable creation, the existence of the creator is still a matter of opinion. By expression of emotion with free will, thus choosing, we reach a conclusion about who Bach is as agent of his decisions. This still leaves it a fact how the decisionmaking is organized, that a decision is made, and what the result of the decision is. So what is in the spiritual domain chooses which way what is in the material domain turns out.
Evolutionists, atheists, nazi's, communists argue like this in stead:
A decision is to sort out an option using the facts about good and evil as sorting criteria. So the facts about good and evil take the place of agency, and the operation of choosing is changed to a sorting algorithm, which algorithm has a forced result. The initial variables force the result of a sorting algorithm. So that is how spiritual death, by exclusion of agency, is related to knowledge of good and evil.
KJB
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."
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Here is how we rational and logical people arrive at an opinion.
http://www.wikihow.com/Form-an-Opinion
We don't "choose about what the agency of a decision is" and so on. The rest of your post is so confused that I can't make sense of it.
Mohammad Nur Syamsu
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Thus proving evolutionists such as yourself were guilty of perpetrating the holocaust, by making good and evil, the worth of human beings, into a matter of pseudoscientific fact.
In light of the recent events in Paris and many other places a Muslim is hardly the right person to lecture evolutionists on the worth of human beings...