Evolution My ToE

[Hockeycowboy]

No, I didn't. But your reply leads to a couple of other questions. First, about when was "Eden"? Once you clarify that, we can move on to the others.

Yes, you did. (Why won’t you admit that?)
From how you replied, it’s obvious....”As you noted yourself, no matter what species we find in the Cambrian (or just prior), you believe they came about "without Jehovah's guidance", do you not?”

“Without Jehovah’s guidance”, prior to the Cambrian?

If you’re going to misrepresent what I wrote, and then not own it....this will be fruitless.

Another thing...”without Jehovah’s guidance” was specifically applying to the harmful parasitic organisms that have evolved “after Eden”, not to speciation in general. Speciation (within their respective family taxa) has occurred since their creation. Only, after Eden, it was without Jehovah’s guidance

Do you have any idea as to why JW’s believe Jehovah God created the genome with the ability to mutate? One reason...so we all wouldn’t look alike. But there’s another; any idea?

 

[Audie]

Wait a second, you mean to say that your supposed all powerful God that was so weak he had to have a Commandment that banned using his name "in vain" could not have given an order not to enslave people? You make him look as weak as any human being.

Mao was more godlike than that.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

What a tangled eeb we weave when first we practice to deceive"

The creos add an extra twist as they devote themselves
to self deception, it certainly does not work on
educated folk.

Lol! What an assumption! I’m probably as educated as you.

Meyer, Axe, etc., have PhD’s.

 

[Jose Fly]

Yes, you did. (Why won’t you admit that?)
From how you replied, it’s obvious....”As you noted yourself, no matter what species we find in the Cambrian (or just prior), you believe they came about "without Jehovah's guidance", do you not?”

“Without Jehovah’s guidance”, prior to the Cambrian?

If you’re going to misrepresent what I wrote, and then not own it....this will be fruitless.

Another thing...”without Jehovah’s guidance” was specifically applying to the harmful parasitic organisms that have evolved “after Eden”, not to speciation in general. Speciation (within their respective family taxa) has occurred since their creation. Only, after Eden, it was without Jehovah’s guidance

Do you have any idea as to why JW’s believe Jehovah God created the genome with the ability to mutate? One reason...so we all wouldn’t look alike. But there’s another; any idea?

"What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"

The creos add an extra twist as their efforts are only
for self deception, it certainly does not work on
educated folk.

Never mind. I think my time at RF is about done. It's become apparent that I am no longer welcome here, so it's probably best that I just move on.

 

[Audie]

Yes, you did. (Why won’t you admit that?)
From how you replied, it’s obvious....”As you noted yourself, no matter what species we find in the Cambrian (or just prior), you believe they came about "without Jehovah's guidance", do you not?”

“Without Jehovah’s guidance”, prior to the Cambrian?

If you’re going to misrepresent what I wrote, and then not own it....this will be fruitless.

Another thing...”without Jehovah’s guidance” was specifically applying to the harmful parasitic organisms that have evolved “after Eden”, not to speciation in general. Speciation (within their respective family taxa) has occurred since their creation. Only, after Eden, it was without Jehovah’s guidance

Do you have any idea as to why JW’s believe Jehovah God created the genome with the ability to mutate? One reason...so we all wouldn’t look alike. But there’s another; any idea?

Coz you are told what to believe and all the lil
robots brlieve.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Psalm 137:9

Read it in context, with verse 8.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Coz you are told what to believe and all the lil
robots brlieve.

I examine and compare what I believe with what is observed. It always fits. Seems to.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I examine and compare what I believe with what is observed. It always fits. Seems to.

No, it really does not.

 

[shunyadragon]

Well, to some Darwinists here, humans are fish. So, by that reasoning, they must think trilobites are bacteria.

No scientists consider humans are fish nor trilobites as bacteria. Let's get with the scientific facts cited.

Please cite where humans are considered fish by scientists.

 

[shunyadragon]

I examine and compare what I believe with what is observed. It always fits. Seems to.

'Seems to' has nothing to do with science.

 

[Audie]

Lol! What an assumption! I’m probably as educated as you.

Meyer, Axe, etc., have PhD’s.

PhDs is plural, not possessive.

Intelligent people sre as prone to self deception
as cog dis as the next. Those, like you, succeeded.

NOBODY has any facts that are contrary to ToE so
their prob is a religious one, has nothing to do with
brains or degrees.

Those of us who have been around the ivory towers
are among the least likely to worship advanced degrees.

Respect goes to those who are impeccable.
Why do you award such respect to the
education level that your church scorns?
Any of that cherry-pickin' going on?

You BTW, really missed the exsence of what I said anyway.

Educated people see through tge shabby ignirant nonsense
you creos use to fool themselves.

Any scientist such as the yec K Wise, PhD in paleontology
(and even you know yec is baloney) says forthrightly
thar no data can affect his belief; the grim spectre
of self deception, cog dis and intellectual dishonesty.

And these are the "authorities" you admire and whose
thin minority voice you value over all the other scientists
in the world. Terrif!

Dont you ever even for a split second wonder if you
couldda got it all wrong?

Plz note that if not you are acknowledging to intellectual
dishonesty on your part.

 

[shunyadragon]

Lol! What an assumption! I’m probably as educated as you.

Meyer, Axe, etc., have PhD’s.

Having a PhD is not a qualification. One out of thousands with a religious agenda adds nothing to the discussion. I want to see a factual argument.

 

[Audie]

Never mind. I think my time at RF is about done. It's become apparent that I am no longer welcome here, so it's probably best that I just move on.

Of course the enemy does not welcome you.

 

[night912]

Never mind. I think my time at RF is about done. It's become apparent that I am no longer welcome here, so it's probably best that I just move on.

You should not let those who do not welcome you to be the reason for moving on. Ideas are important and powerful. New ideas are not for those kind of individuals, it is for the ones who are welcoming to new ideas. I say to everyone, doesn't matter which side of the argument you are on.

Those who are welcoming, don't tell you that you are welcome. Those who are not welcoming, tell you that you are not welcome.

 

[Jim]

Never mind. I think my time at RF is about done. It's become apparent that I am no longer welcome here, so it's probably best that I just move on.

If I’m one of the people making you feel unwelcome, I want to say that not responding to your posts doesn’t mean that I would be glad for you to stop posting. I wouldn’t. I read all your posts in threads that I follow, and learn from them.

 

[John53]

Read it in context, with verse 8.

Ok, in context with verse 8, dashing out the brains of babies is ok if it's revenge.

Which makes a mockery of the 2nd greatest commandment, do unto others... and also turn the other cheek....

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Ok, in context with verse 8, dashing out the brains of babies is ok if it's revenge.

Which makes a mockery of the 2nd greatest commandment, do unto others... and also turn the other cheek....

It is always a puzzle to me, how so many don’t want to understand how the Supreme Being, the Almighty, Creator & perfect Judge, can make decisions resulting in others’ deaths...as if He can’t restore that life.

It’s what His Word promises. ( Called the Resurrection.)

If someone were to tell you, “If you hurt my kids, then I’ll hurt yours, and hurt you, too”....it would probably act as a pretty strong deterrent, what do you think?

That’s why, in the Biblical context, those Canaanites deserved what they got...they knew what happened to Egypt, with the Ten plagues. Rahab’s statement confirms it. (Joshua 2:8-11.)

Jehovah is always justified (Deuteronomy 32:4), especially as it relates to protecting His servants. — 2 Thessalonians 1:6-9

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Of course the enemy does not welcome you.

I am not @Jose Fly ’s enemy, and never will be (he’s my cousin); it is telling, though, that you label me as such.

FYI, I’m not your enemy, either.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Never mind. I think my time at RF is about done. It's become apparent that I am no longer welcome here, so it's probably best that I just move on.

I value your input, and insight.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It is always a puzzle to me, how so many don’t want to understand how the Supreme Being, the Almighty, Creator & perfect Judge, can make decisions resulting in others’ deaths...as if He can’t restore that life.

It’s what His Word promises. ( Called the Resurrection.)

If someone were to tell you, “If you hurt my kids, then I’ll hurt yours, and hurt you, too”....it would probably act as a pretty strong deterrent, what do you think?

That’s why, in the Biblical context, those Canaanites deserved what they got...they knew what happened to Egypt, with the Ten plagues. Rahab’s statement confirms it. (Joshua 2:8-11.)

Jehovah is always justified (Deuteronomy 32:4), especially as it relates to protecting His servants. — 2 Thessalonians 1:6-9

This sort of thinking can lead to the justification of any atrocity. All one has to do is claim God wants it done and buildings come down and kiddies get brained.