Evolution My ToE

[YoursTrue]

Probably radiometric dating.

But you are not sure...what they used and what was tested. ,and how they figured it out.

 

[John53]

No one has seen dirt turn into anything other than dirt.

 

[Subduction Zone]

As we both know, no one of the human species has seen fish evolve to anything more than...fish. or better put, finches evolving to anything other than finches. Have a good day.

Correct. In other words the theory of evolution is true. Thank you for your post.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'd love to hear more about that testing, what they tested and how they figured that it evolved.

Are you talking about the bug? You just admitted that evolution is a fact in your prior post.

 

[gnostic]

As we both know, no one of the human species has seen fish evolve to anything more than...fish. or better put, finches evolving to anything other than finches. Have a good day.

Once again, you have showed how seriously you have misunderstood and misrepresented the theory of Evolution.

You make up scenarios that demonstrate your lack of intellectual integrity.

You continually repeat errors and refused to learn how to resolve your ignorance, sticking your head deeper in the sand.

Humans, did evolve from the fishes, but not in the seriously ignorant ways that you dishonestly believe:

Fishes didn’t give birth to humans!!!!​

Fishes don’t give birth to humans, any more than cats would give birth to dogs, or dogs to cats. Speciations don’t work in the very ignorant ways that you believe.

You don’t understand the taxon of species.

Btw, YoursTrue. Finch is not the name of bird species. Finch is actually the taxon family Fringillidae, and the Fringillidae or finches have several subfamilies, genera, and species. So there are numbers of different species of finches, that are located all around the world. From what I could find out, there are more than 200 different species under into 50 or so genera. Meaning there are more than 200 species of finches, not ONE SPECIES, so you have believed.

For instance, the Galapagos have many islands, and some are close to each other, and yet have different terrains, different humidity levels, different vegetation, and so on, that are inhabited by different distinguishable species of finches, from one island to the next neighbouring island.

The word “fish” is not a name of any species. We use the word “fish” colloquially with any aquatic organisms with gills, fins, vertebrates, etc. But for every orders, families, . For instance, the name salmon doesn’t apply to just one species, but a number of them under the family Salmonidae & subfamily Salmoninae. Under this subfamily are more than 40 living species of salmons. Sure, you can colloquially used salmon for every species, but how do you distinguish the Atlantic salmons from the pink salmons (Oncorhynchus gorbuscha) from one of many pacific species of genus Oncorhynchus (Pacific salmons); aside from the pink salmons being one of the species of Oncorhynchus, there are another 5 species in that genus. There are many shared traits that all species shared, but there other traits that you can tell them apart, and depending on the species, they are located in different parts of the pacific. Like some species preferred the warmer parts of the ocean, while others are more adapted to the cooler parts.

Your idea of species is just too narrowed, too limited, and that’s why you really don’t the modern taxonomy and modern theory of evolution. You are so stuck in the creationist mindset, that you have blindly refused to learn what they (biologists) are saying.

You keep repeating this same ignorant fish and human connection, that you keep repeating the same stupid errors, that compounded your ignorance.

We have tried to correct you , but you simply don’t want to learn & understand. That type of stubborn ignorance only make us waste our time, explaining to you where you have gone wrong. You are like every other creationists, a hopeless case, refusing to understand, because you are blinded by the religion you follow.

Your thread, is you want people to explain Evolution, and yet you covered your eyes and stuffed your fingers in your ears. So seriously & really, you are not interested in any explanations at all. Your motivations for creating this thread are really dishonest and insincere.

 

[Jimmy]

Once again, you have showed how seriously you have misunderstood and misrepresented the theory of Evolution.

You make up scenarios that demonstrate your lack of intellectual integrity.

You continually repeat errors and refused to learn how to resolve your ignorance, sticking your head deeper in the sand.

Humans, did evolve from the fishes, but not in the seriously ignorant ways that you dishonestly believe:

Fishes didn’t give birth to humans!!!!​

Fishes don’t give birth to humans, any more than cats would give birth to dogs, or dogs to cats. Speciations don’t work in the very ignorant ways that you believe.

You don’t understand the taxon of species.

Btw, YoursTrue. Finch is not the name of bird species. Finch is actually the taxon family Fringillidae, and the Fringillidae or finches have several subfamilies, genera, and species. So there are numbers of different species of finches, that are located all around the world. From what I could find out, there are more than 200 different species under into 50 or so genera. Meaning there are more than 200 species of finches, not ONE SPECIES, so you have believed.

For instance, the Galapagos have many islands, and some are close to each other, and yet have different terrains, different humidity levels, different vegetation, and so on, that are inhabited by different distinguishable species of finches, from one island to the next neighbouring island.

The word “fish” is not a name of any species. We use the word “fish” colloquially with any aquatic organisms with gills, fins, vertebrates, etc. But for every orders, families, . For instance, the name salmon doesn’t apply to just one species, but a number of them under the family Salmonidae & subfamily Salmoninae. Under this subfamily are more than 40 living species of salmons. Sure, you can colloquially used salmon for every species, but how do you distinguish the Atlantic salmons from the pink salmons (Oncorhynchus gorbuscha) from one of many pacific species of genus Oncorhynchus (Pacific salmons); aside from the pink salmons being one of the species of Oncorhynchus, there are another 5 species in that genus. There are many shared traits that all species shared, but there other traits that you can tell them apart, and depending on the species, they are located in different parts of the pacific. Like some species preferred the warmer parts of the ocean, while others are more adapted to the cooler parts.

Your idea of species is just too narrowed, too limited, and that’s why you really don’t the modern taxonomy and modern theory of evolution. You are so stuck in the creationist mindset, that you have blindly refused to learn what they (biologists) are saying.

You keep repeating this same ignorant fish and human connection, that you keep repeating the same stupid errors, that compounded your ignorance.

We have tried to correct you , but you simply don’t want to learn & understand. That type of stubborn ignorance only make us waste our time, explaining to you where you have gone wrong. You are like every other creationists, a hopeless case, refusing to understand, because you are blinded by the religion you follow.

Your thread, is you want people to explain Evolution, and yet you covered your eyes and stuffed your fingers in your ears. So seriously & really, you are not interested in any explanations at all. Your motivations for creating this thread are really dishonest and insincere.

Creationists aren’t hopeless cases. In my opinion, people who think the world has been here for more than 4.6 billion years are the misled ones. I won’t be so crass as you and say hopeless because there’s always hope. They are blinded by what science tells them. Hey, to each their own.

 

[gnostic]

Creationists aren’t hopeless cases. In my opinion, people who think the world has been here for more than 4.6 billion years are the misled ones. I won’t be so crass as you and say hopeless because there’s always hope. They are blinded by what science tells them. Hey, to each their own.

When the earliest crusts formed on Earth, magma cooling down, it often get destroyed by the impacts of asteroids and meteorites, and those impacts can generate enough heat to melt the crusts again, into magma.

What survived the earlier crusts from the melting, are zircon that found in geologic shields in Canada, Greenland, parts of Africa, and Western Australia. Zircon are mineral that can withstand high pressure and high heat, as well as being resistant to normal weathering. There are zircons discovered in these regions, that are almost dated to the near the time of Earth's earliest formation.

Plus some of the recent meteorites that have impacted in recent history, like the Allende Meteorite in Chihuahua, Mexico, in 1969, and Murchison Meteorite in Victoria, Australia, also in 1969, have been around before the earlier part of Solar System history.

The Allende Meteorite has been dated to 4.567 billion years, while much of the Murchison Meteorite have been dated to around the same time, grains of silicon carbide which were found in the Murchison, has been dated to about 7 billion years.

You wouldn't use radiocarbon to date these rocks, but you would use uranium-lead method, like the uranium-235 isotope or uranium-238 isotope, to date these meteorites.

Unlike rocks on Earth, asteroids and meteorites don't suffer from being melted again and again, nor suffer from weathering, while they have been in space. Hence these formed around the same times as the Sun and Earth.

If you don't want to accept these findings, that's really your problem.

Most of the creationist sources, books, websites, etc, were written by authors, with no science qualifications or experiences, and even when you do have someone qualified, they have never worked in the fields, hence never done the researches.

Take for instance, Stephen Meyer for example. He is qualified geologist, but his qualification only extend to knowledge of fossil fuel, hence he worked in the field for companies that drill for oil and gas. His level of expertise don't extend to working on rocks from the Cambrian or the older Precambrian eras, like the Archaean aeon or the Hadaean aeon. Meyer may be knowledgable about finding oil or gas, but his knowledge are limited, and he has no experiences at all with researching fossils, as he never study paleontology, nor worked in the fields.

But even though, he is a creationist and one of the people who created Intelligent Design with Phillip E Johnson, even he recognised the Earth is old, much older than what Genesis narrated.

Btw, Jimmy. YoursTrue, is also not a Young Earth creationist, she doesn't believe that the Earth to be 6000 years old. Her problem is not about her belief in the Bible, is that she doesn't understand science as well as she believe she do.

 

[Jimmy]

When the earliest crusts formed on Earth, magma cooling down, it often get destroyed by the impacts of asteroids and meteorites, and those impacts can generate enough heat to melt the crusts again, into magma.

What survived the earlier crusts from the melting, are zircon that found in geologic shields in Canada, Greenland, parts of Africa, and Western Australia. Zircon are mineral that can withstand high pressure and high heat, as well as being resistant to normal weathering. There are zircons discovered in these regions, that are almost dated to the near the time of Earth's earliest formation.

Plus some of the recent meteorites that have impacted in recent history, like the Allende Meteorite in Chihuahua, Mexico, in 1969, and Murchison Meteorite in Victoria, Australia, also in 1969, have been around before the earlier part of Solar System history.

The Allende Meteorite has been dated to 4.567 billion years, while much of the Murchison Meteorite have been dated to around the same time, grains of silicon carbide which were found in the Murchison, has been dated to about 7 billion years.

You wouldn't use radiocarbon to date these rocks, but you would use uranium-lead method, like the uranium-235 isotope or uranium-238 isotope, to date these meteorites.

Unlike rocks on Earth, asteroids and meteorites don't suffer from being melted again and again, nor suffer from weathering, while they have been in space. Hence these formed around the same times as the Sun and Earth.

If you don't want to accept these findings, that's really your problem.

Most of the creationist sources, books, websites, etc, were written by authors, with no science qualifications or experiences, and even when you do have someone qualified, they have never worked in the fields, hence never done the researches.

Take for instance, Stephen Meyer for example. He is qualified geologist, but his qualification only extend to knowledge of fossil fuel, hence he worked in the field for companies that drill for oil and gas. His level of expertise don't extend to working on rocks from the Cambrian or the older Precambrian eras, like the Archaean aeon or the Hadaean aeon. Meyer may be knowledgable about finding oil or gas, but his knowledge are limited, and he has no experiences at all with researching fossils, as he never study paleontology, nor worked in the fields.

But even though, he is a creationist and one of the people who created Intelligent Design with Phillip E Johnson, even he recognised the Earth is old, much older than what Genesis narrated.

Btw, Jimmy. YoursTrue, is also not a Young Earth creationist, she doesn't believe that the Earth to be 6000 years old. Her problem is not about her belief in the Bible, is that she doesn't understand science as well as she believe she do.

I’m not Christian. I don’t doubt science shows evidence that the world is more than 4.6 billion years old. I just believe that the world appeared around 1979.

 

[John53]

I’m not Christian. I don’t doubt science shows evidence that the world is more than 4.6 billion years old. I just believe that the world appeared around 1979.

And you are God. Unless I misinterpreted some of your previous posts?

 

[Jimmy]

And you are God. Unless I misinterpreted some of your previous posts?

God is the infinite cosmos. I guess I could be called god in the flesh, since all of existence ends when I die and starts again with my appearance at the age of five n 1979.

 

[John53]

God is the infinite cosmos. I guess I could be called god in the flesh, since all of existence ends when I die and starts again with my appearance at the age of five n 1979.

Hopefully you're not a smoker.

 

[Jimmy]

Hopefully you're not a smoker.

Smoked for 30 yrs. Quit 2 1/2 yrs ago. Life didn’t come with a manuel. Well if I shortened my lifespan there’s nothing I can do about it. The good news is, I’ll get to live again. What are you worried about anyway? You don’t believe me.

 

[YoursTrue]

I’m not Christian. I don’t doubt science shows evidence that the world is more than 4.6 billion years old. I just believe that the world appeared around 1979.

Ha, Jimmy, that's funny.

 

[Audie]

Once again, you have showed how seriously you have misunderstood and misrepresented the theory of Evolution.

You make up scenarios that demonstrate your lack of intellectual integrity.

You continually repeat errors and refused to learn how to resolve your ignorance, sticking your head deeper in the sand.

Humans, did evolve from the fishes, but not in the seriously ignorant ways that you dishonestly believe:

Fishes didn’t give birth to humans!!!!​

Fishes don’t give birth to humans, any more than cats would give birth to dogs, or dogs to cats. Speciations don’t work in the very ignorant ways that you believe.

You don’t understand the taxon of species.

Btw, YoursTrue. Finch is not the name of bird species. Finch is actually the taxon family Fringillidae, and the Fringillidae or finches have several subfamilies, genera, and species. So there are numbers of different species of finches, that are located all around the world. From what I could find out, there are more than 200 different species under into 50 or so genera. Meaning there are more than 200 species of finches, not ONE SPECIES, so you have believed.

For instance, the Galapagos have many islands, and some are close to each other, and yet have different terrains, different humidity levels, different vegetation, and so on, that are inhabited by different distinguishable species of finches, from one island to the next neighbouring island.

The word “fish” is not a name of any species. We use the word “fish” colloquially with any aquatic organisms with gills, fins, vertebrates, etc. But for every orders, families, . For instance, the name salmon doesn’t apply to just one species, but a number of them under the family Salmonidae & subfamily Salmoninae. Under this subfamily are more than 40 living species of salmons. Sure, you can colloquially used salmon for every species, but how do you distinguish the Atlantic salmons from the pink salmons (Oncorhynchus gorbuscha) from one of many pacific species of genus Oncorhynchus (Pacific salmons); aside from the pink salmons being one of the species of Oncorhynchus, there are another 5 species in that genus. There are many shared traits that all species shared, but there other traits that you can tell them apart, and depending on the species, they are located in different parts of the pacific. Like some species preferred the warmer parts of the ocean, while others are more adapted to the cooler parts.

Your idea of species is just too narrowed, too limited, and that’s why you really don’t the modern taxonomy and modern theory of evolution. You are so stuck in the creationist mindset, that you have blindly refused to learn what they (biologists) are saying.

You keep repeating this same ignorant fish and human connection, that you keep repeating the same stupid errors, that compounded your ignorance.

We have tried to correct you , but you simply don’t want to learn & understand. That type of stubborn ignorance only make us waste our time, explaining to you where you have gone wrong. You are like every other creationists, a hopeless case, refusing to understand, because you are blinded by the religion you follow.

Your thread, is you want people to explain Evolution, and yet you covered your eyes and stuffed your fingers in your ears. So seriously & really, you are not interested in any explanations at all. Your motivations for creating this thread are really dishonest and insincere.

Give it up give it up give it upupup.

 

[YoursTrue]

Smoked for 30 yrs. Quit 2 1/2 yrs ago. Life didn’t come with a manuel. Well if I shortened my lifespan there’s nothing I can do about it. The good news is, I’ll get to live again. What are you worried about anyway? You don’t believe me.

I smoked also for many years to the point of really bad. I stopped smoking because of my religious beliefs, but it wasn't easy to stop. However, I DID IT! And I'm happy about it, too. So I'm glad you stopped, even if it wasn't because of your religious beliefs. Congratulations, Jimmy!

 

[YoursTrue]

God is the infinite cosmos. I guess I could be called god in the flesh, since all of existence ends when I die and starts again with my appearance at the age of five n 1979.

lol, why 5?

 

[Jimmy]

I smoked also for many years to the point of really bad. I stopped smoking because of my religious beliefs, but it wasn't easy to stop. However, I DID IT! And I'm happy about it, too. So I'm glad you stopped, even if it wasn't because of your religious beliefs. Congratulations, Jimmy!

Thanks. It’s not easy that’s for sure. I just did it to live a healthier lifestyle. I quit coffee soon after and made major changes to my diet as well.

 

[YoursTrue]

Thanks. It’s not easy that’s for sure. I just did it to live a healthier lifestyle. I quit coffee soon after and made major changes to my diet as well.

That's interesting. I still drink coffee but not as much as I used to. I was a singer even while I was smoking and because I would cough so much my throat started bleeding. I still have residuals from the effects of being a chain smoker but I sure am glad I stopped.

 

[Jimmy]

lol, why 5?

I just sense it was around that time. For one thing I don’t believe God could have made someone like me in an embryo stage. He had to make me older. It’s possible God chose a bit of an older age to avoid any things like neonatal death, SIDS and Sudden unexplained death in childhood (SUDC) I don’t know. You pose a difficult question.


People talk about abiogenesis. lol yeah right.

 

[Jimmy]

That's interesting. I still drink coffee but not as much as I used to. I was a singer even while I was smoking and because I would cough so much my throat started bleeding. I still have residuals from the effects of being a chain smoker but I sure am glad I stopped.

That’s so great. Congratulations to you as well!