EVOLUTION, what a lie.

[Autodidact]

If we ever suffer through one of these threads again, we should use a numbering system. The first time these basics are explained, put (1) after them, and then keep track of how often we have to repeat them.

 

[Perfect Circle]

Holy crap... this is like the longest thread in history.

 

[DarkSun]

Looks like I need to go into basics with the A-team...

Question 2
How did the universe come into existence? … and when did you come to know?

Peace be upon you.

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(Moses) said: "O my Lord! expand me my breast;
Ease my task for me;
And remove the impediment from my speech',
So they may understand what I say":
{The Holy Qur'an 20: 25-28}​

This question has nothing to do with evolution. Start a new thread.

Considering the myriad of creation stories permeating the globe I wonder if in the distant future the "ToE" will be regarded as "Just another creation myth".....".....then it came to pass that the terrible lizard created all the flying creatures of the air, and those feathered varieties that walk upon the land also "

PW... I know forensics is different than the genetics used in evolution, but if forensics , as is known , is not hundred percent reliable even from short time spans ago, how can you be certain that it is accurate over millions of years ? particularly regarding lineages and the assertion that we came from an ancestral gene pool

Mhm. And if it is proven to be another creation myth in the future, and if the evidence presented later down the track disproves evolution and suggests an alternative theory -- then no one will care.

The fact of the matter is that evolution is the best possible explanation for the observable phenomenon we currently have. If you would like to suggest an alternative scientific theory, then please feel free to do so.

Hold on a second? Don't you know about the Big Bang? How else would we have evolved from apes? I'm curious.

Aren't you skipping the building blocks to ToE in that case?

Peace be upon you.

The Big Bang has nothing to do with evolution... :sarcastic

You do understand the theory which this thread concerns, don't you?

 

[Autodidact]

Holy crap... this is like the longest thread in history.

Well, if you cut out all the stuff that had to be posted 10-20 times because people didn't get it the first time, and all the irrelevant stuff about Allah, Big Bang and abiogenesis, it's probably about 3 pages long.

 

[kai]

Well, if you cut out all the stuff that had to be posted 10-20 times because people didn't get it the first time, and all the irrelevant stuff about Allah, Big Bang and abiogenesis, it's probably about 3 pages long.

thats what i call the vortex effect :yes:

 

[Breathe]

No, you didn't. That's why it came out wrong, because you did it incorrectly. First, you didn't put "=" between the "QUOTE" and my name, and second, you used parentheses and spelled out "End quote" instead of [ /quote ]. You're obviously trying, but failing.

...snip...

First, it's [ quote=mball1297 ] without the spaces. Second, the difference is not that something has brackets around it. The difference is that the brackets make the quote clearer, so that it's easier to figure out which part is the quote and which part is your response, because the quote is then set against a gray background.

LOL, this thread is so bored of the same stuff you've taken to teaching Fatihah how to use the quote system correctly and saying "as said earlier...".

 

[Gharib]

if i wasn't required right now to post and tell you guys to stop posting irrelevant things, this thread would not get very long. so here i am posting again.

 

[Buttons*]

if i wasn't required right now to post and tell you guys to stop posting irrelevant things, this thread would not get very long. so here i am posting again.

I think you should just take one step at a time... because the ToE is very complex... especially to people who don't understand all the things that enter into it. Many Muslims don't seem to, and others have to explain every little detail.... of course it gets out of hand.

 

[kai]

yes i think this thread has evolved into a rather long headless chicken

 

[themadhair]

yes i think this thread has evolved into a rather long headless chicken

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[Ghostaka]

This question has nothing to do with evolution. Start a new thread.

The Big Bang has nothing to do with evolution... :sarcastic

You do understand the theory which this thread concerns, don't you?

So would I be right in saying that when a theory is supported in the Qur'an you regard it as irrelevant? If the Big Bang had not occurred how would you be able to even consider evolution? You tell me... :sarcastic

Peace be upon you.

 

[Ghostaka]

To keep people in the thread happy and "gay"...

How do you know for a fact, that the most closely related saipian actually evolved to have a human skeletal structure? That is, how do you know it didn't stop right there and we came about from another means?

Peace be upon you.

 

[Autodidact]

So would I be right in saying that when a theory is supported in the Qur'an you regard it as irrelevant? If the Big Bang had not occurred how would you be able to even consider evolution? You tell me... :sarcastic

Peace be upon you.

I find that with some posters you have to say things over and over different ways.

Whether Big Bang is true or the universe got here some other way, we can still investigate what happened much later than that. ToE has to do with something much later. It needs a planet to work on, but it makes no difference how the planet got here. This thread is not about the Big Bang. Next time you make me say that, $1 charge. Thank you.

 

[Jose Fly]

So would I be right in saying that when a theory is supported in the Qur'an you regard it as irrelevant? If the Big Bang had not occurred how would you be able to even consider evolution? You tell me...

I posted an answer to this earlier, and others have repeated the point as well.

No matter how the universe came to be, be it via the big bang, a glitch in interdimensional space, a god poofing it into existence, or some other means, as long as there's life that replicates itself with variation, evolution will explain its behavior.

IOW, evolution is compatible with just about any origin of the universe scenario you care to imagine.

 

[camanintx]

To keep people in the thread happy and "gay"...

How do you know for a fact, that the most closely related saipian actually evolved to have a human skeletal structure? That is, how do you know it didn't stop right there and we came about from another means?

Peace be upon you.

We know for a fact is that humans evolved from something else because we see evolution happening all around us. What exactly we may evolved from is a matter of conjecture, but the prevailing evidence suggests that it was Australopithecus africanus.

 

[DarkSun]

So would I be right in saying that when a theory is supported in the Qur'an you regard it as irrelevant? If the Big Bang had not occurred how would you be able to even consider evolution? You tell me... :sarcastic

Peace be upon you.

No, when a theory is considered by the Qur'an, I do not see it as irrelevant. Heaven knows, it probably is relevant. Who can say otherwise?

I just see it as a theory which cannot be verified by the scientific method.

The Theory of Evolution, on the other hand, can be verified in such a way. AND IT HAS BEEN.

I will frubal you if you can find the three posts where I have already said this within the next day.

Peace be upon you.

 

[Buttons*]

Response: There's the statement. Where's the proof?

You can add a link to that as well.

I think I have it figured out... Fatihah is mentally ill.... we need to be nice to him, cos it won't be PC if we aren't.

 

[Autodidact]

Actually, I think he's a bot. If another poster makes an affirmative statement, reply, "There's the statement, where's the proof?" If another poster makes an accusation you don't like, say, "Likewise." If another poster requests proof from you, refer him or her to an irrelevant post, by number, several pages back. If all else fails, lapse into gibberish. Every page or so, repeat something already eliminated. Start over.

 

[painted wolf]

I think Fatihah just likes rattling your chains...

wa:do

 

[YmirGF]

I think Fatihah just likes rattling your chains...

wa:do

My guess is that he enjoys the fact that people are wasting a considerable amount of time addressing his non-arguments. I'd be laughing myself silly.