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EVOLUTION, what a lie.

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Response: You have authority? Well I just overrode your authority. See example below.

Ex. (Quote)

No, you didn't. You can do whatever you want, but it'll still be incorrect. I didn't say I could make you do it a certain way, I just said that it's incorrect if you do it that way.
 

Fatihah

Well-Known Member
[QUOTE mball1297]Then what about all of the other times you don't quote correctly, even when it's not a multiquote?(End quote)

Response: I quote correctly everytime. See the quote above. I used parenthesis, no brackets. That's correct.


(Quote mball1297)
Not for you because you don't have to. However, you're not the one reading it. That's like telling someone their job is easy when you're not the one who has to do it.(End quote)

Response: Then how exactly are you able to respond to my own response of me quoting my own post coherently if I didn't read it? The fact that you respond everytime is proof enough that I've read the post just fine and you have as well. Otherwise, neither of us would be able to respond and have this conversation to begin with. Another senseless post from mball1297.

(Quote mball1297)
I guess we shouldn't expect anything else from you at this point. It's not absurd. It's confusing. If you made the quote bold or even in italics, it would make it easier. It's all about distinguishing. Sure, your posts are legible, but that doesn't mean they're easy to read. Quoting properly makes them much easier to read and understand.(End quote)

Response: So basically, you can't read. And somehow, that's my fault. Sorry, that's your fault. You should have paid attention in elementary school. Your inability to read is no fault of mine. Words don't magically become clearer because a bracket is around it.

But no need to go back and forth and say that you can't comprehend. We'll just prove it right now.

Example A
[/Quote mball1297]

Example B
(Quote mball1297)

So based on your own words, you have a hard time comprehending example B because it has parenthesis instead of brackets. Lol!! Then when we add the fact that you don't know the difference between "could" and "can" (Post 1484 of page 149), we can clearly see what the problem is. Thanks for the clarification of your lack of literacy.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Looks like I need to go into basics with the A-team...

Question 2
How did the universe come into existence?
I don't know. I don't even know that it ever did; it may be eternal.
… and when did you come to know?
I don't.

Now what on earth does this question have to do with evolution, or are you allergic to the actual subject of the thread?
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Considering the myriad of creation stories permeating the globe I wonder if in the distant future the "ToE" will be regarded as "Just another creation myth"....."
It seems unlikely, since it was discovered through the scientific method and supported by evidence, unlike any creation myth ever. It's about as likely as the "Round Earth Myth" being recognized as such.

PW... I know forensics is different than the genetics used in evolution, but if forensics , as is known , is not hundred percent reliable even from short time spans ago, how can you be certain that it is accurate over millions of years ? particularly regarding lineages and the assertion that we came from an ancestral gene pool
It's not 100% sure. It's just as sure as we know how to get. This thread has indicated how it is constantly being refined and updated, like all scientific theories.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
[QUOTE Autodidact]And it's all about you.
As I told you pages ago, all you have to do is type [ quote ] (without the spaces) and [ / quote ] (without the spaces) before and after what you type. (End quote)

Response: Or I could not do it, and continue posting as normal. I choose option B.

(Quote Autodidact)
Your apparent inability or unwillingness to learn this new information is consistent with your approach to scientific subjects.(End quote)

Response: Coming from a person who says that ToE isn't true and believes in it anyway, you shouldn't be talking.

Now you really need to stop this habit of lying. I have never, ever, said that ToE isn't true, and this has been repeatedly proven to you. Yet you persist in repeating it, thus demonstrating that you are a flagrant liar. What I have said is that we know it is true because of the EVIDENCE that supports it (like all scientific knowledge), not because it is proven, because nothing in science is ever proven. The fact that you are too stupid, inconsiderate or stubborn to learn this new information is not surprising, as it is consistent with your general behavior.

As I have now said ten or twenty times, if you reject ToE because it is not proven, you must then reject all scientific knowledge, which is hard to do on a Blackberry. That's right, the technology that runs your Blackberry isn't proven. It's based on evidence, just like the ToE.

I can't help it that you can't grasp this elementary concept, but it does not surprise me. You can't even grasp how to use the quote function.
 

Fatihah

Well-Known Member
[QUOTE Autodidact]Now you really need to stop this habit of lying. I have never, ever, said that ToE isn't true, and this has been repeatedly proven to you. Yet you persist in repeating it, thus demonstrating that you are a flagrant liar. What I have said is that we know it is true because of the EVIDENCE that supports it (like all scientific knowledge), not because it is proven, because nothing in science is ever proven..(End quote)

Response: Exactly. You said nothing in science is ever proven. So from your own mouth, neither science or ToE is true. Thanks.

(Quote Autiodidact)
As I have now said ten or twenty times, if you reject ToE because it is not proven, you must then reject all scientific knowledge, which is hard to do on a Blackberry. That's right, the technology that runs your Blackberry isn't proven. It's based on evidence, just like the ToE.(End quote)

Response: Prove it... Oh I forgot, it's not about proof. So the creation of the blackberry happened by chance. No comment. That statement alone shows how absurd you are.

(Quote Autodidact)
I can't help it that you can't grasp this elementary concept, but it does not surprise me. You can't even grasp how to use the quote function.(End quote)

Response: Coming from someone who says that science isn't true, you shouldn't be talking.
 

Ghostaka

Active Member
I don't know. I don't even know that it ever did; it may be eternal. I don't.

Oh you don't know? How come? I thought you stood up for the discoveries of modern "science"! What changed?

Now what on earth does this question have to do with evolution, or are you allergic to the actual subject of the thread?

The "inception"/creation of the universe has nothing to do with evolution? What science books have you been reading?

Peace be upon you.
______________________________

(Moses) said: "O my Lord! expand me my breast;
Ease my task for me;
And remove the impediment from my speech',
So they may understand what I say":
{The Holy Qur'an 20: 25-28}
 

Fatihah

Well-Known Member
Because it's all about Fatihah, the most important person in the world. Taking other people into consideration is beneath him.

Response: You not wanting me to quote in the way that is most convenient for me is an example of not taking other people into consideration as well. Now you've just confirmed how hypocritical you are.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
[QUOTE Autodidact]Now you really need to stop this habit of lying. I have never, ever, said that ToE isn't true, and this has been repeatedly proven to you. Yet you persist in repeating it, thus demonstrating that you are a flagrant liar. What I have said is that we know it is true because of the EVIDENCE that supports it (like all scientific knowledge), not because it is proven, because nothing in science is ever proven..(End quote)

Response: Exactly. You said nothing in science is ever proven. So from your own mouth, neither science or ToE is true. Thanks.

(Quote Autiodidact)
As I have now said ten or twenty times, if you reject ToE because it is not proven, you must then reject all scientific knowledge, which is hard to do on a Blackberry. That's right, the technology that runs your Blackberry isn't proven. It's based on evidence, just like the ToE.(End quote)

Response: Prove it... Oh I forgot, it's not about proof. So the creation of the blackberry happened by chance. No comment. That statement alone shows how absurd you are.

(Quote Autodidact)
I can't help it that you can't grasp this elementary concept, but it does not surprise me. You can't even grasp how to use the quote function.(End quote)

Response: Coming from someone who says that science isn't true, you shouldn't be talking.

That's it, Fatihah. You are a liar, an unrepentant, unexcused, serial liar, and I have proven it, right here in this thread, more than once. I take personal umbrage to people who tell lies about me. The result, for you, is that no one here believes a word you say, not even those on your side of the argument.

Or are you really too stupid to grasp the concept I have explained to you as to a 7-year old at least ten times?

I really can't discuss evolution or anything else to you, because apparently you are so brain-damaged that you cannot comprehend what anyone says. Either that, or your deep dishonesty prevents you from stating that you do. Either way, there's no point in continuing to talk to someone who repeatedly claims that I say the opposite of what I do.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
[QUOTE mball1297]Then what about all of the other times you don't quote correctly, even when it's not a multiquote?(End quote)

Response: I quote correctly everytime. See the quote above. I used parenthesis, no brackets. That's correct.

No, you didn't. That's why it came out wrong, because you did it incorrectly. First, you didn't put "=" between the "QUOTE" and my name, and second, you used parentheses and spelled out "End quote" instead of [ /quote ]. You're obviously trying, but failing.

Response: Then how exactly are you able to respond to my own response of me quoting my own post coherently if I didn't read it? The fact that you respond everytime is proof enough that I've read the post just fine and you have as well. Otherwise, neither of us would be able to respond and have this conversation to begin with. Another senseless post from mball1297.

Wow, that was hard to understand, and not because of the quote question. I never said I couldn't understand your posts, just that you make it more difficult by doing the quotes incorrectly. It would be considerate of you to do the quotes correctly for us.

Response: So basically, you can't read. And somehow, that's my fault. Sorry, that's your fault. You should have paid attention in elementary school. Your inability to read is no fault of mine. Words don't magically become clearer because a bracket is around it.

So, basically, you can't listen. And somehow that's my fault. Sorry, that's your fault. You should have paid attention in elementary school. Your inability to listen is no fault of mine. Words do magically become clearer when you put brackets around the correct words. That's why it's done that way, to make it clearer.

It's very simple. The quote function is there for a reason. It makes posts easier to read, when you have quotes from someone else. You're obviously taking the time to try to do it right, but you're just failing. I was trying to help you succeed.

Example A
[/Quote mball1297]

Example B
(Quote mball1297)

So based on your own words, you have a hard time comprehending example B because it has parenthesis instead of brackets. Lol!! Then when we add the fact that you don't know the difference between "could" and "can" (Post 1484 of page 149), we can clearly see what the problem is. Thanks for the clarification of your lack of literacy.

First, it's [ quote=mball1297 ] without the spaces. Second, the difference is not that something has brackets around it. The difference is that the brackets make the quote clearer, so that it's easier to figure out which part is the quote and which part is your response, because the quote is then set against a gray background.

Third, you might want to make sure something's a mistake before calling the person out for it.

"You can see the same things as a biologist, if you want to. "

There are two equally valid ways to say this sentence. You could instead say "You could see the same things as a biologist, if you wanted to". However, the way I said it is also valid, as long as I use the correct tense in the second clause, which I did. I purposely used the form I did because I was trying to convey that it is immediately possible for you. I was trying to convey that you can do it right now, you just have to allow yourself to.

Regardless, pulling up what you think to be a mistake (and even if it was a mistake, it was a tiny one) from 50+ pages ago doesn't help your cause very much. The simple fact is that you're doing the quote function wrong, and it makes it more difficult for those of us who have to read your replies.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Oh you don't know? How come? I thought you stood up for the discoveries of modern "science"! What changed?

One of the discoveries of science is that we don't know everything, and that that's OK. Inserting an explanation just to have something doesn't help anyone, therefore science is perfectly willing to admit when it doesn't know something, so that we can then research it to find a real answer.

The "inception"/creation of the universe has nothing to do with evolution? What science books have you been reading?

Ones that contain actual science. Evolution is only concerned with what happened after life began. Anything prior to the beginning of life is completely irrelevant to the ToE.
 

Fatihah

Well-Known Member
That's it, Fatihah. You are a liar, an unrepentant, unexcused, serial liar, and I have proven it, right here in this thread, more than once. I take personal umbrage to people who tell lies about me. The result, for you, is that no one here believes a word you say, not even those on your side of the argument.

Or are you really too stupid to grasp the concept I have explained to you as to a 7-year old at least ten times?

I really can't discuss evolution or anything else to you, because apparently you are so brain-damaged that you cannot comprehend what anyone says. Either that, or your deep dishonesty prevents you from stating that you do. Either way, there's no point in continuing to talk to someone who repeatedly claims that I say the opposite of what I do.

Response: Likewise.
 

Ghostaka

Active Member
Or are you really too stupid to grasp the concept I have explained to you as to a 7-year old at least ten times?

I really can't discuss evolution or anything else to you, because apparently you are so brain-damaged that you cannot comprehend what anyone says. Either that, or your deep dishonesty prevents you from stating that you do. Either way, there's no point in continuing to talk to someone who repeatedly claims that I say the opposite of what I do.

It is your honesty that isn't doing very well right now... why are you beating around the bush with my questions? They are simple enough aren't they?

Peace.
 

Ghostaka

Active Member
One of the discoveries of science is that we don't know everything, and that that's OK. Inserting an explanation just to have something doesn't help anyone, therefore science is perfectly willing to admit when it doesn't know something, so that we can then research it to find a real answer.

Hold on a second? Don't you know about the Big Bang? How else would we have evolved from apes? I'm curious.

Ones that contain actual science. Evolution is only concerned with what happened after life began. Anything prior to the beginning of life is completely irrelevant to the ToE.
Aren't you skipping the building blocks to ToE in that case?

Peace be upon you.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Oh you don't know? How come?
Because scientists haven't figured it out yet.
I thought you stood up for the discoveries of modern "science"!
I do.
What changed?
Nothing.
The "inception"/creation of the universe has nothing to do with evolution?
that's right. And this discussion would go a lot better if you took the time to learn what it is we're talking about.
What science books have you been reading?
The Origin of Species, by Charles Darwin, What Evolution Is, by Ernst Mayr, Evolutionary Genetics, by John Maynard Smith, The Structure of Evolutionary Theory, by Steven Jay Gould, Evolution: The Triumph of an Idea, by Carl Zimmer. If you want one to start with, I recommend the last one.

Definition
noun, plural: evolutions
(1) The change in genetic composition of a population over successive generations, which may be caused by natural selection, inbreeding, hybridization, or mutation.
[from Biology online] That's the evolution we're talking about here.
 
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