EVOLUTION, what a lie.

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I really cant wait to cover evolution in biology this year because I actually want to see all of the evidence compiled in front of me in an orderly fashion. I personally dont care how the world came about, but I do KNOW that there is a God. I felt his presence before, but It would be nice to form an opinion on how the earth came about rather than constantly being indifferant to it.

I hate indifferance and apathy! :sad4:

 

[rageoftyrael]

you know, i think most people's reasoning, when they say that they have personal experiences to back up their belief in god, simply think they have personal experience, because they believed in god to begin with, and decided that certain things that had happened to them was god. so NOW they have proof, when most likely they merely misunderstood a certain phenomenon BECAUSE of their belief in god.

 

[DarkSun]

you know, i think most people's reasoning, when they say that they have personal experiences to back up their belief in god, simply think they have personal experience, because they believed in god to begin with, and decided that certain things that had happened to them was god. so NOW they have proof, when most likely they merely misunderstood a certain phenomenon BECAUSE of their belief in god.

That would be convenient to your viewpoint if that were true, right?

I was actually an atheist before I felt something with me. That being said, maybe I'm just mental?

 

[rageoftyrael]

yup, your mental.

 

[DarkSun]

yup, your mental.

Nuh-ah! You are!

You are, you are, you are, times infinity! Nyaaaaahhh.

 

[nonbeliever_92]

you know, i think most people's reasoning, when they say that they have personal experiences to back up their belief in god, simply think they have personal experience, because they believed in god to begin with, and decided that certain things that had happened to them was god. so NOW they have proof, when most likely they merely misunderstood a certain phenomenon BECAUSE of their belief in god.

Also people usually mislabel their experience as something from "god"

 

[Daemon Sophic]

I really cant wait to cover evolution in biology this year because I actually want to see all of the evidence compiled in front of me in an orderly fashion. I personally dont care how the world came about, but I do KNOW that there is a God. I felt his presence before, but It would be nice to form an opinion on how the earth came about rather than constantly being indifferant to it.

I hate indifferance and apathy! :sad4:

Danger! Approaching failure. :cover:

You do not 'know';.....rather, you whole-heartedly 'believe'. Perhaps with every fiber of your being your most certainly believe.......but that is still not 'knowing'. :sorry1: To the one experiencing it, the two terms seem equal.

That said; science (reputable science at least) requires that you approach it without bias. Unfortunately, you have already stated that you absolutely refuse to observe the universe without your bias.....and thus, your approaching failure.

Also people usually mislabel their experience as something from "god"

Interesting note regarding many schizophrenic people that believe that they hear voices commanding them to do things, or just having conversations with them. Those voices? They often believe that those voices are the voices of either Satan or God. (or that they themselves are either God, or a saint, etc...)
They believe with absolute certainty. Their faith cannot be dissuaded.

Just noting.

 

[DarkSun]

Also people usually mislabel their experience as something from "god"

Prove they have mislabeled it.

 

[DarkSun]

Danger! Approaching failure. :cover:

You do not 'know';.....rather, you whole-heartedly 'believe'. Perhaps with every fiber of your being your most certainly believe.......but that is still not 'knowing'. :sorry1: To the one experiencing it, the two terms seem equal.

That said; science (reputable science at least) requires that you approach it without bias. Unfortunately, you have already stated that you absolutely refuse to observe the universe without your bias.....and thus, your approaching failure.

Science doesn't address God. At all. So belief in God does not inhibit you in any way.

Interesting note regarding many schizophrenic people that believe that they hear voices commanding them to do things, or just having conversations with them. Those voices? They often believe that those voices are the voices of either Satan or God. (or that they themselves are either God, or a saint, etc...)
They believe with absolute certainty. Their faith cannot be dissuaded.

Just noting.

Have you ever stared at the person in a mirror and wondered if you were a reflection of it?

 

[themadhair]

Prove they have mislabeled it.

Impossible to prove but I can provide a few examples where people have done such with physical phenomena to illustrate that the idea isn't so far fetched. The sun, the rain, thunder&lightening, floods, etc.

 

[DarkSun]

Impossible to prove but I can provide a few examples where people have done such with physical phenomena to illustrate that the idea isn't so far fetched. The sun, the rain, thunder&lightening, floods, etc.

Those first three words were enough, thanks.

 

[MSizer]

Those first three words were enough, thanks.

"Impossible to prove" has no value since it's also impossible to disprove. I don't remember the stat, but apparently the majority of hurrican katrina sufferers who were believers prior to the flood say that their faith was only strenghthened by the disaster. That's evidence enough for me to not need proof.

 

[DarkSun]

"Impossible to prove" has no value since it's also impossible to disprove. I don't remember the stat, but apparently the majority of hurrican katrina sufferers who were believers prior to the flood say that their faith was only strenghthened by the disaster. That's evidence enough for me to not need proof.

"Impossible to disprove" has no value since it's also impossible to prove. I don't remember the stat, but apparently the majority of hurricane Katrina sufferers who were believers prior to the flood say that their faith was only strengthened by the disaster. That's evidence enough for me to not need proof.

 

[MSizer]

"Impossible to disprove" has no value since it's also impossible to prove. I don't remember the stat, but apparently the majority of hurricane Katrina sufferers who were believers prior to the flood say that their faith was only strengthened by the disaster. That's evidence enough for me to not need proof.

??? I assume the smiley is a "checkmate" but I don't see how it is such a thing at all.

 

[whitemonk]

Evolution is a theory but with other theories what is the alternative that Satan buried the dinosaur bones. I am not being sarcastic I just want to know what the alternative is. Yes, I understand that Intelligent Design is the "middle ground". But, I don't know how religion and science can coexist, they seem to be on two different sides.

 

[shortfade2]

What I ask is for people to stop caring about evolution and try to start to figure out ways to deal with the ozone, overpopulation, and other issues that need pretty much immediate fixing.

 

[Autodidact]

What I ask is for people to stop caring about evolution and try to start to figure out ways to deal with the ozone, overpopulation, and other issues that need pretty much immediate fixing.

There are brilliant scientists who have devoted their lives to studying evolution, leading to some of the most important developments in human knowledge. Some of these have direct application to practical, important problems, such as communicable diseases, and some are pure science. They are all significant and worthwhile.

 

[McBell]

Evolution is a theory but with other theories what is the alternative that Satan buried the dinosaur bones. I am not being sarcastic I just want to know what the alternative is. Yes, I understand that Intelligent Design is the "middle ground". But, I don't know how religion and science can coexist, they seem to be on two different sides.

 

[Valjean]

Evolution is a theory but with other theories what is the alternative that Satan buried the dinosaur bones. I am not being sarcastic I just want to know what the alternative is. Yes, I understand that Intelligent Design is the "middle ground". But, I don't know how religion and science can coexist, they seem to be on two different sides.

[I agree, Mestemia]
Intelligent design is no "middle ground" whitemonk. It's religion in academic robes.

This is clear. The correspondence between religious proponents discussing how to repackage creationism and what to call it is there for all to read. It's even been documented on TV exposes.

 

[nonbeliever_92]

Evolution is a theory but with other theories what is the alternative that Satan buried the dinosaur bones. I am not being sarcastic I just want to know what the alternative is. Yes, I understand that Intelligent Design is the "middle ground". But, I don't know how religion and science can coexist, they seem to be on two different sides.

Intelligent design is no middle ground, it is a very very bad hypothesis to the origin of man.