"Pretty bad"?
I disagree. Regardless of the culture, such practices and beliefs on the treatment of rape victims are horrifying and atrocious. I read that and the hair stands up on the back of my neck.
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"Pretty bad"?
I disagree. Regardless of the culture, such practices and beliefs on the treatment of rape victims are horrifying and atrocious. I read that and the hair stands up on the back of my neck.
Vadergirl123
Could you answer me a question please.....
How do you Christians plan to enter the City as there is no gate for yous :
Rev 21:2 I saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:12 having a great and high wall; having twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels; and names written on them, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do his commandments,[2] that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter in by the gates into the city.
Could you answer me a question please.....
How do you Christians plan to enter the City as there is no gate for yous :
Rev 21:2 I saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:12 having a great and high wall; having twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels; and names written on them, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do his commandments,[2] that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter in by the gates into the city.
It depends: are we talking about compassion, kindness to others, and not harming any fellow human beings? Then my answer would be "My conscience" -- which doesn't necessarily have to contradict the teachings of my religion to still be what I base my morals on.
However, if we take into account certain regulations when it comes to what I eat, drink, and other similar activities, then I'll say that I follow what my religion dictates on these issues.
Vadergirl123
Active Member
Well while doing the analogy I was thinking of the disciples who knew Jesus personally and Paul who also saw him(obviously I don't know these guys personally but there were people who ha dthe scriptures and their letters who did know them)
No the writers did fine. It's fallibel human beings who make the mistakes. I can give you a classic example of letting the Bible say what you want it to. Genesis 1, God created the world in 6days, there are people who look at that passage and say the six days weren't six literal days. That's just one example of how people make the Bible say what they want it to. It's not fair to blame God for man's mistakes.
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waitasec
Veteran Member
your opinion does not override mine.
otherwise,
it's not real regardless of what either one of us believes...
so you don't know anyone personally who knows god?
is that right? then what was the point of saying you knew and trusted those who knew sandy? by what criteria do you determine that the bible is conveying a correct idea of what god is?
well you do realize that there are thousands of different christian denomination and interpretations...
You mean Gehenna, right? Where the worm does not die nor the fire get quenched (Mark 9:47-48)? If so, some good news! The worms died and the fire was quenched. Here's a picture of modern-day hell -- i.e., Gehenna:
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Vadergirl123
Active Member
Animals don't really have the ability to reason or empathize. Also you didn't say if you believed it's wrong to shoot someone in the back?
waitasec
Veteran Member
mammals are social animals.
any animal that cares for their young are social animals.
pack animals are social and are capable to reason that they will ensure their survival when belonging to a group rather than being a loner
Vadergirl123
Active Member
Hmm it is terrible don't get me wrong.(I'm not trying to say I approve people getting raped) but wouldn't it have been worse for the girl if she'd been raped and then stayed single. Wouldn't everyone have treated her as an outcast?
waitasec
Veteran Member
then what ever happened to thou shall not mis treat rape victims
Vadergirl123
Active Member
Well I don't have a great knowledge of the endtimes, but I don't understand how you get christians won't be able to be in New Jerusalem from those verses?
Also when you become a christian you're adopted into God's family.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
That would have been a problem with that society, not the victims.
Who is it that wrote the rules for that society again?
Vadergirl123
Active Member
Okay, but everyone doesn't have the same conscience. In fact if we were to all just follow our consciences then the world would be pretty chaotic. In Judges it talks about how the Israelites had every man do"that which was right in his own eyes." It didn't go very well. My conscience might not tell me killing is wrong, while someone elses might say otherwise. Who's to say who's right or who's wrong?
waitasec
Veteran Member
but you are overlooking something else we are capable of doing...reason.
Vadergirl123
Active Member
You're absolutely right. However hell being real isn't my opinion.
I'll assume by "know" that you mean someone who's seen God, and no I don't know anyone personally.
In the analogy Sandy represented God. Her letters, the Bible(or O.T scripture), and those who knew her personally would be the disciples, Paul, Solomon, the prophets. And the letters they write would be, the N.T, and some of the books in the old. God inspired them and you see the O.T, which tells us about God. And then you have the N.T which talks about the same God and is consistent with the O.T.
Yes, that's why there's different denominations. When you interpret something incorrectly you'll have different viewpoints.
Vadergirl123
Active Member
Hahahaha that's not the hell I'm talking about.You mean Gehenna, right? Where the worm does not die nor the fire get quenched (Mark 9:47-48)? If so, some good news! The worms died and the fire was quenched. Here's a picture of modern-day hell -- i.e., Gehenna:
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-Peacemaker-
.45 Cal
Regarding the former reason, whatever "pastor" is teaching flock that God is going to make all people's problems go away needs to be taken out to the back of his church and shot between the eyes. I can't count all the troubles I've had as a follower of Jesus. The promise that we believe is that God SUSTAINS us through the bad times, not makes them disappear
-Peacemaker-
.45 Cal
Hahahaha that's not the hell I'm talking about.
Actually, having to spend eternity in that God forsaken wasteland seen in the picture would definately qualify as hell to me
Vadergirl123
Active Member
God made the rules, but not everyone followed them