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Your font color is irritating. Can you realize that?
Since we often can't prove that fantasy isn't fantasy, so what?
Demonstrate to me that dragons and wizards aren't real.
Tis a shame "staff members" can't be ignored, as this kind of reasoning is too juvenile to warrant attention.
I can't actually see what this god or not God has to say.
So this so good application Tapatalk has multiple identification?I believe you can see what I say which amounts to the same thing.
Well, I don't know what your particular motives are in your attempt to access The Absolute; I can only tell you how I see it, which is that the ultimate goal is the greatest happiness, or Absolute Joy, that one can attain to. Most of us live and function on this Third Level of Consciousness, otherwise known as Identification, in which we experience the dualities of relative joy and relative suffering. These are conditional and temporal states. So once a certain point in our awareness develops, joy and sorrow become a study to us, and what then interests us is an absolute state of pure joy that has no opposite, one transcendent of all dualities; of all 'coming and going'.
In general, there exist several ways to achieve a quietude of the mind, what the yogi Patanjali called 'the cessation of all of the activities of the mind'. This is yoga, or divine union with The Absolute. The problem is that all efforts of the self to achieve this only make matters more complicated. The process is likened to simply allowing the churned up mud in the pond to settle on its own so that one can then see clear to the bottom. So the keyword here is non-attachment to any thought as 'my' thought, which plunges us right back into the state of Identification. What we are trying to do is to attain clear vision.
"Can you keep the unquiet physical-soul from straying,
Hold fast to the Unity, and never quit it?
Can you, when concentrating your breath,
Make it soft like that of a little child?
Can you wipe and cleanse your vision of the Mystery till all is without blur?"
Tao te Ching, Chapter 10
http://terebess.hu/english/tao/waley.html#Kap10
The discursive mind is always trying to grasp at something; to add to its body of knowledge, thinking that it will attain a knowing of some truth. The awakened mind is letting go, rather than grasping, at what it seeks to know. This is about seeing, rather than conceptualizing, about the true nature of Reality.
I do trust you in the matter what you said.Actually Patanjal said that yoga starts with "cestation of thought" (nirodha), I think ? I have been a mystic since I was five years old (I am sixty six now) and I have been a yogi for a little over forty years now with thousands of hours of meditation experience. I was born extremely empathic and somewhat telepathic. And, I have had a one on one relationship with Lord Shiva since 2/22/2002 (I was the father of Yogananda's Kriya Yoga tradition in my last life, so Lord Shiva and I do have past history which I didn't know about in my younger days in this life). I guess that my motive as a young yogi in this life was to achieve a divine union with the Absolute. And I am not really into self realization because I do not want to be God. I understand what it is that you are saying on both an experience and a knowledge level and your understanding of things is very advanced. Well godnotgod, I just want to thank you for your patience with an old fellow . namaste
I do trust you in the matter what you said.
Stupid. Change it to the level of vision.
Actually Patanjal said that yoga starts with "cestation of thought" (nirodha), I think ? I have been a mystic since I was five years old (I am sixty six now) and I have been a yogi for a little over forty years now with thousands of hours of meditation experience. I was born extremely empathic and somewhat telepathic. And, I have had a one on one relationship with Lord Shiva since 2/22/2002 (I was the father of Yogananda's Kriya Yoga tradition in my last life, so Lord Shiva and I do have past history which I didn't know about in my younger days in this life). I guess that my motive as a young yogi in this life was to achieve a divine union with the Absolute. And I am not really into self realization because I do not want to be God. I understand what it is that you are saying on both an experience and a knowledge level and your understanding of things is very advanced. Well godnotgod, I just want to thank you for your patience with an old fellow . namaste
Muffled in my sense is no more understandable.
That's good.I have reported you to management sir. You are overtly rude and disruptive (in my opinion ) and you seem to have no intention to contribute anything to the flavor and validity of this message board's social environment.
So Jiddanad sir, why are you angry at your parents?
"controlled controversy sells news papers " The viewers love it!
The problem with deciding that everything is an illusion is that the Absolute becomes an illusion also and from there "you" become a dream creating a dream. Or "you" are a dream that has been created by a dream.
Well, thank you!
There must be more than one translation of the Yoga Sutras by Patanjali, including what you have posted. Here is one from a cursory Google search:
"The first [chapter, or padra, of the Yoga Sutras], samādhi pāda, defines Yoga as the complete cessation of all active states of mind, and outlines various stages of insight that stem from this. The chapter points to the ultimate goal of Yoga, which is content-less awareness, beyond even the most supreme stages of insight."
http://www.iep.utm.edu/yoga/
'Cessation of mind' is, in reality, 'cessation of thought'.
Isn't "divine union with The Absolute" to know that you are none other than the divine nature itself?...ie; "Tat tvam asi"
Well, thank you!
There must be more than one translation of the Yoga Sutras by Patanjali, including what you have posted. Here is one from a cursory Google search:
"The first [chapter, or padra, of the Yoga Sutras], samādhi pāda, defines Yoga as the complete cessation of all active states of mind, and outlines various stages of insight that stem from this. The chapter points to the ultimate goal of Yoga, which is content-less awareness, beyond even the most supreme stages of insight."
http://www.iep.utm.edu/yoga/
'Cessation of mind' is, in reality, 'cessation of thought'.
Isn't "divine union with The Absolute" to know that you are none other than the divine nature itself?...ie; "Tat tvam asi"
I believe the mind can't be shut off or one goes brain dead but one may cease thinking and be in a subconscious state. We do that when we sleep. This allows a person's spirit to speak to the mind but the person's spirit likes to fantasize and that is called dreaming. If one sets one's mind upon God going into this state one may hear from God.
Please understand that I am making the distinction between mind and consciousness. Consciousness is before mind; it is always present. Mind is a self-created principle, and as such, is an illusion. It comes and goes. Once the illusory quality of mind is seen and understood, there is only seeing, without thought. That is the beginning of awakened consciousness. Mind operates within the sphere of conditioned consciousness; ie; our beliefs, opinions, ideas, etc, about Reality, whereas awakened consciousness is Reality itself. It sees things as they actually are, rather than how mind conceptualizes them to be.
Consciousness is not a function of brain; brain is a function of consciousness.
Where is 'God'?