Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
It is still an illegal campaign contribution. Tell me, why pay just before the election?
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F.B.I raids the office of Trump’s personal lawyer.
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The $130,000 from Cohen's corporation was a contribution on behalf of Trump's campaign, to help in getting him elected President. It's no different than if an organization had provided $130,000 of clerical services on behalf of Trump's campaign.
It's ironic how many of Trump's catchphrases and accusations are more aptly directed at him. It's Crooked Donald now, not Crooked Hillary, and it's Trump and his orbit that are looking at prison time. Lock them up.
His birther nonsense was a challenge to Obama's legitimacy as president, and now we're going to discover how an election was fixed for him and what part he played in that.
Mueller's going to drain the swamp.
It's often the case that a person accuses others of precisely the wrongdoing that she or he, herself or himself, is guilty of.
Thermos aquaticus
Well-Known Member
It is pretty sickening at times. If you are poor and happen to be accused of stealing a $200 car radio you will probably be jailed with a bond you can't afford, so you stay in prison until your trial. At the trial you get a really bad defense attorney who tells you to plead guilty, even if you are innocent. You end up doing a lot of jail time for a petty crime you may or may not have committed. All the while, rich bankers robbed the public of hundreds of billions of dollars in the banking fiasco of 2008 and crashed the world wide economy. None of them were even charged with a crime. Some of them even took bail-out money and gave themselves bonuses.
Equal protection under the law? Don't think so.
Sometimes a person might even plead the fifth.
Michael Avenatti says Michael Cohen to plead Fifth, seek ‘emergency stay’ in Stormy Daniels lawsuit
What campaign contribution? It wasn’t one. Why just before the election? Maybe because that is when the gold digger came forward thinking that would be the best time to try to extort money?
tytlyf
Not Religious
You think Stormy asked for the money? I don't think it works that way.
That isn’t correct. Now I see where your error is. It wasn’t a campaign contribution. And, yeah, I think there is a big difference between funding some clerks and a pay off to a porn star to keep her mouth shut.
Um, actually that is precisely how it would work. It is kind of the job for that sort of woman to sell herself for money. If you know what I mean.
I’m sure you don’t.
Or crazy like a fox. He spots a (for them) small amount of money to keep in with the most powerful man on the planet. Even if he were ever convicted (which won’t happen) his friend could fix if for him.
That section doesn’t apply. Cohen didn’t make a campaign contribution. So, you haven’t found a law Cohen broke.
You are just wrong about this. Any judge will find that this money was paid for the express purpose of helping Donald Trump win the election. That makes it a campaign contribution, and illegal.
Ironically there is one quick way around this, all they have to say is that the money came from Donald Trump himself (through his lawyer) and then it is legal. But for some reason they will not say that.
We disagree. But let’s say you are right. It goes all through the courts. The end result would be a fine. No big deal for them. Nobody is going to jail. Mark my words.
I never said anyone was going to jail over this. So we agree about that. A fine, disbarment perhaps. And it might be part of the impeachment charge.
tytlyf
Not Religious
You're just assuming that. To me it seems like Trump wanted to keep Stormy silence when he heard about her coming forward. (like dozens of other women). Who's responsible for giving money to someone? It's hush money. Not like Stormy is suing Trump.
Regardless what you think of the lady that the president had an affair with while having a wife and kid at home . A lawyer even helping to keep them quiet is shady as hell let alone doing it during a camapign for a presidential election. Lawyer creating a shell corporation to launder the money is also all kinds of shady and illegal.
Though the shady campaign contribution is something like some fines, bank fraud and laundering is a bit more serious. Disbarrment is very likely regardless.
Then what was the purpose of Cohen paying Daniels $130,000? That payment didn't benefit Cohen in any way. On whose behalf did Cohen pay that money to Daniels?
The only plausible explanation for this payment that anyone has articulated is that it was paid on Trump's behalf in his effort to win the election, in order to prevent Daniels from publicizing the encounter between her and Trump just before the election. Therefore it was an illegal campaign contribution.
52 U.S. Code § 30101(8)(A)(i) defines "contribution" as:
(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office