Faith in Christ is Completely Logical

[viole]

The proof is within the person and the evidence is their conviction, their faith. That is not from ignorance, that is from knowledge. It is knowledge you don't posses. It appears to be only this subject where, not knowing is put above knowing.

My conviction and my knowledge is that there is no God.

Now what?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Sapiens]

Perhaps you should give evience for luck being the answer

I never made that claim, you incorrectly make that claim for me, in the hope of being able to easily disprove it. That's your second logical fallacy, the stawman fallacy, in as many minutes. Got some more?

 

[viole]

duplicate.

 

[Robert.Evans]

My conviction and my knowledge is that there is no God.

Now what?

Ciao

- viole

haha... Then to you, in your reality, there is no God.

 

[savagewind]

My conviction and my knowledge is that there is no God.

Now what?

Ciao

- viole

Go about your business without considering God's business which for some people, even God believers, is good advice.

 

[Robert.Evans]

I never made that claim, you incorrectly make that claim for me, in the hope of being able to easily disprove it. That's your second logical fallacy, the stawman fallacy, in as many minutes. Got some more?

So it is not God, and you don't think it is luck, but you are shy at saying what it is, is that it?

 

[Skwim]

God is a reflection of his own Self. So what you see is a reflection of something else. The process is fractal. So what we see here, and what we are, is evolving cosciousness expressed in physical form. It is, in short, an evolving mind. Not all of the mind wants to be a part of the whole... that is the way it is. It is all thought processes.
What you have to have is freewill in order that God is truly just. To have this, there are those who will not see.
You will have to ask the question a little better for me to comment further.....

I honestly don't believe even you understand the gibberish you just wrote here.

 

[Robert.Evans]

I honestly don't believe even you understand the gibberish you just wrote here.

haha.... I do.

Care to rephrase your first post ?

 

[savagewind]

Good question Robert! What is it that started out so very well as one thing and which multiplied into many billions of things that work, even work together once in while, so well? What is it called? Does Science have a name for it yet? No? Why not? Maybe it is because they don't even know what it is yet. How can they give it a name?

 

[Robert.Evans]

Good question Robert! What is it that started out so very well as one thing and which multiplied into many billions of things that work, even work together once in while, so well? What is it called. Does Science have a name for it yet? No? Why not? Maybe it is because they don't even know what it is yet. How can they give it a name?

Non-believers have a worse problem than us. We have the proof and evidence. They have none. And yet they have to stop and ask what it is that everything comes from, and yet have no answers. Perhaps that is why they always attack religion, because they cannot find an answer themselves.
They have no intelligence involved because they do not believe in God, so they have to have processes. That is the 'artificial' intelligence. They called this ''Natural''. The question then is, What is natural if ALL things are natural? What does it then mean? It is meaningless.

 

[Serenity7855]

Indeed, the scriptures were written by mortal men but God selected and compiled them. What it contains is exactly what God wants for it to contain making it the literal word of God.


You see? You ask me to provide evidence, yet you write that God selected & compiled the scriptures.

Give me evidence that this is so.

I cannot do that. As I have said many times, there is no tangible evidence, however, there is a logical and rational Plan of Redemption, deviced by God himself, that is so profound and sapient that it can be considered as evidence for the existence of God, that is, unless someone can find a genuine discrepancy in it.

 

[Sapiens]

So it is not God, and you don't think it is luck, but you are shy at saying what it is, is that it?

There is no evidence of a god. There is evidence of stochastic terms operating in a deterministic framework (e.g., a rock falling due to gravity is deterministic, there are any number of stochastic processes that influence exactly where it comes to rest). You seem to have a screaming need to answer all questions even when such a rush to judgement is illogical and clearly incorrect, I do not share this defect in thinking, I am more patient.

 

[Skwim]

haha.... I do.

Care to rephrase your first post ?

Nope.

 

[Sapiens]

I cannot do that. As I have said many times, there is no tangible evidence, however, there is a logical and rational Plan of Redemption, devised by God himself, that is so profound and sapient that it can be considered as evidence for the existence of God, that is, unless someone can find a genuine discrepancy in it.

That is, once again, the logical fallacy of an argument from ignorance. You'll have to do better.

 

[savagewind]

I cannot do that. As I have said many times, there is no tangible evidence, however, there is a logical and rational Plan of Redemption, deviced by God himself, that is so profound and sapient that it can be considered as evidence for the existence of God, that is, unless someone can find a genuine discrepancy in it.

A fine post but I disagree. Even if by coincidence every breathing thing would cooperate in God's plan and it succeeded, people, even some God believers, would boast it was by human cooperation it succeeded.
Judges 7:2
The LORD said to Gideon, "You have too many men. I cannot deliver Midian into their hands, or Israel would boast against me, 'My own strength has saved me.'

 

[Sapiens]

Non-believers have a worse problem than us. We have the proof and evidence. They have none. And yet they have to stop and ask what it is that everything comes from, and yet have no answers. Perhaps that is why they always attack religion, because they cannot find an answer themselves.
They have no intelligence involved because they do not believe in God, so they have to have processes. That is the 'artificial' intelligence. They called this ''Natural''. The question then is, What is natural if ALL things are natural? What does it then mean? It is meaningless.

What proof? Everyone asks you to demonstrate your proof and it all turns into semantics, your beliefs, and logical fallacies.

 

[savagewind]

Each person has their own proof that God's way is the best way. To me God and God's way are synonymous.

 

[Serenity7855]

haha.... now you make me nervous. I shall be worried about offending you now.

No, my friend, our differences do not reach that deep. If you disagree with me, then I might be wrong, therefore, I need to be told. That is the acquisition of knowledge.

 

[Robert.Evans]

There is no evidence of a god.

haha.. there is, even the bible is evidence, by definition.

There is evidence of stochastic terms operating in a deterministic framework (e.g., a rock falling due to gravity is deterministic, there are any number of stochastic processes that influence exactly where it comes to rest).

now you are speaking of physical evidence when you know full well we speak of something that is metaphysical.

You seem to have a screaming need to answer all questions even when such a rush to judgement is illogical and clearly incorrect, I do not share this defect in thinking, I am more patient.

haha.... ''patient'' is not the word that came to my mind. But I notice you avoid the question.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Nope.

haha.........