Faith Is A Choice

[katiemygirl]

"Raahim, post: 4722623, member: 59723"
I have faith (& believe) in God's guidance through my life - God exists & there are many proofs for this, some will see them as legit and some will reject them.

God spoke directly to Noah. He told him he was about to destroy the earth. Noah believed God, and so he did as God directed him to do. That's faith!

I agree with you about the proofs all around us. I see them as legit also.

 

[katiemygirl]

Why would people reject them if there are so many proofs?

Because they choose to.

Imho, it's easier to ignore the proofs, to say God doesn't exist, or that the Bible isn't His Word. That allows them to do as they please rather than do what pleases God.

 

[katiemygirl]

Why don't they accept these things? What is the motive?

The motive is that they want what they want, which is almost always in opposition to what God wants.

The best way to go on living in sin is to say God doesn't exist. That way, there's no one to be accountable to.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

That question you should ask them. When people seek the proof of God they want something huge, epic that will make their brains explode like the voice from the sky, levitating talking figure of light, something which can't be explained - they want to see proof of God's existence in big things yet they can't see God in small things. To climb a mountain you start from the bottom.

No, I just ask for something that could only be done by god and not be a result of natural laws.

Hey god is the one that made me skeptical of him right?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

You didn't answer my question. Is faith a choice?

I believe Jesus when He said in Matthew 13:41-42, 49-50,

“The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

I believe Jesus when He said in Mark 9:43, 48-49,

“And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire…where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’ For everyone will be salted with fire.”

Do you have faith in what Jesus said?

Again, faith is a choice we each make.

You are saying that faith is a choice because the bible says so. But you need to have faith in the bible to believe that faith is a choice.

That is a logical fallacy called circular logic.

 

[Raahim]

God spoke directly to Noah. He told him he was about to destroy the earth. Noah believed God, and so he did as God directed him to do. That's faith!

I agree with you about the proofs all around us. I see them as legit also.

When I tell you I will give you for example a cup of tea in ten minutes, you don't believe in me because I am in front of you - my existence is not in question but what I said. You believe my words not in me, there (for me) is big difference.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Because they choose to.

Imho, it's easier to ignore the proofs, to say God doesn't exist, or that the Bible isn't His Word. That allows them to do as they please rather than do what pleases God.

No that is not in anyway true.

Because I do not accept your god, I am responsible for my own actions, I do not get to believe that I will meet my loved ones after I die, I do not get to believe that there is ANYTHING after I die.

Where do you get this notion that being an atheist makes it easier on you?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

The motive is that they want what they want, which is almost always in opposition to what God wants.

The best way to go on living in sin is to say God doesn't exist. That way, there's no one to be accountable to.

The best way to live in "sin" is to convince people that god told you to do it.

 

[Raahim]

No, I just ask for something that could only be done by god and not be a result of natural laws.

Hey god is the one that made me skeptical of him right?

Result of natural laws are result of God's laws, why would they be separated? That makes no sense. Your thoughts aren't controlled by God, your free will made you sceptical about Him.

 

[katiemygirl]

No that is not in anyway true.

Because I do not accept your god, I am responsible for my own actions, I do not get to believe that I will meet my loved ones after I die, I do not get to believe that there is ANYTHING after I die.

Where do you get this notion that being an atheist makes it easier on you?

Thank you for telling me you are an atheist.

Do you believe in an afterlife?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Result of natural laws are result of God's laws, why would they be separated? That makes no sense. Your thoughts aren't controlled by God, your free will made you sceptical about Him.

So having believing in god makes sense because you can see his laws all around you if you believe in him?

That is again circular logic.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Thank you for telling me you are an atheist.

Its right below my name that I am an Agnostic Atheist.....

 

[katiemygirl]

Its right below my name that I am an Agnostic Atheist.....

What is an agnostic atheist? Sorry, I didn't see it posted under your name.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Thank you for telling me you are an atheist.

In any case, I would rather there be a god than there not be one, however there is no evidence that I can find that would lead you to him.

Because of that you need faith, belief without evidence, and I cannot make myself believe something without evidence without lying to myself.

I want the truth.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

What is an agnostic atheist? Sorry, I didn't see it posted under your name.

I do not know if there is a god, but I think it is far more likely that there is not one and I will not believe in one without evidence.

Most atheist are technically agnostic atheist.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

What is an agnostic atheist? Sorry, I didn't see it posted under your name.

I decided to translate my poem back to English in my signature so you can read it.

 

[Raahim]

Its right below my name that I am an Agnostic Atheist.....

Oxymorons are interesting in poetry, but in defining terms makes absolutely no sense.
You are either agnostic or atheist.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Oxymorons are interesting in poetry, but in defining terms makes absolutely no sense.
You are either agnostic or atheist.

Agnostic means that you are unsure about whether god exists or not.

Atheist means that you do not believe that god exists.

Because I am unsure, I do not believe.

 

[katiemygirl]

In any case, I would rather there be a god than there not be one, however there is no evidence that I can find that would lead you to him.

Because of that you need faith, belief without evidence, and I cannot make myself believe something without evidence without lying to myself.

I want the truth.

I have a friend who used to say the same things as you. His wife, however was a believer. She never pushed him. She just went about living her life the way she thought God wanted her to live. One day, he simply made a choice. He decided he was going to get to know who this God was that his wife so strongly believed in. Today, roughly 40 years later, he is one of the best christian men I know.

It's all about choice.

It's opening your heart and giving the Lord a little room to move in. It's giving Him the chance to show you He is there.

 

[Raahim]

Agnostic means that you are unsure about whether god exists or not.

Atheist means that you do not believe that god exists.

Because I am unsure, I do not believe.

To each their own, but I still don't understand such statement. What harm would be to be unsure & believe?
Remember that if you keep doors close no one can either enter or leave - until you change your lenses your view won't change, don't expect someone else to do it for you because they won't.