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Ferguson!

lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
And given that Psychoslice is an Aussie, I can offer some reputable local info...

http://www98.griffith.edu.au/dspace/bitstream/handle/10072/27745/56521_1.pdf;jsessionid=25FA646B7E0BC4540F8DC35E16C0F27A?sequence=1

Couple of key points...(study looked at all police deaths from 1838 - 2007)

The results strongly support an emerging international knowledge base about police
deaths: that up to three-quarters are “accidental” and as few as one quarter the result of an
attack by an offender; that the very large majority of accidents involve motor vehicles;
that in the post World War Two period officer fatalities have been declining as a
proportion of police numbers as a result of improvements in procedures and technology;
and that further reductions are obtainable through stricter application of a wider range of
prevention strategies. The paper concludes by mapping out some key strategies, including
curtailing speeding in police vehicles; keeping police off the road at vehicle stops and
roadblocks; and better risk management procedures in raids, sieges, arrests and service of
warrants.
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Police deaths between 2001 and 2007 were 5, if excluding accidentals. 4 shot, 1 unknown (MIA?). Not even one a year.
Peak shooting deaths were in 1861-1870, where 15 police were shot and killed in line of duty.

Motor Vehicle accidents are by the far the most likely way for a police officer to be killed.

I'm not sticking up for low-lifes. I am suggesting that the police are not a law unto themselves. They are supposed to be accountable for their actions. They are NOT allowed to shoot 'low-lifes'...at least not unless that low-life happens to be taking action putting someone's life in immediate danger.

Unarmed 'low-lifes' are not collateral damage in a war to keep the streets safe. As a society, we need to have a higher demand on those entrusted to enforce THE LAW.
 
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freethinker44

Well-Known Member
Remember this "Breaking news"?

Hoft-Michael-Brown.jpg


It's not even a picture of Michael Brown. It's another kid in Oregon.

Kansas City, Mo., cop under review after posting fake 'Michael Brown' picture to Facebook: report - NY Daily News
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
freethinker44 said:
Nope, they don't. Compared to other professions being a cop is actually pretty safe.

Here's is some data from 2013:

Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths in 2014

So in 2013 only 27 cops died from gunfire in the entire country. That's less than 1 cop per state. Less than 1 cop per state in an entire year is "all the time"?
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By contrast, the police in the US have killed at least 400 people a year since 2008, about a quarter of whom are black people killed by white officers. 99% of those killings are deemed "justifiable" by police investigating themselves. (What a surprise).

http://rt.com/usa/180648-police-shootings-african-american/
 
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Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Revoltingest said:
I see this info on Fox News, other sources disrespected on RF, & unheard of news outlets,
but not on any of the favored ones like Huff Po, NYT, NPR, Salon, Wa Po.
So is all this info just fabricated?
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News
Was Brown attacking Wilson, or just walking down the street when shot?
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Always take any news article that cites "a source" without naming them with a hefty helping of salt.

We now have the autopsy report, which shows no sign of a physical confrontation, and no gunpowder residue on Brown. I've been trying to find out whether you can break someone's eye socket with your fist and not suffer any bruises or contusions of any kind on your hand, but my common sense tells me no.

Given the language of this report, including the quotes, I suspect Fox has simply picked up the other dodgy story you posted and run with it. Love 'em or hate 'em, their track record with journalistic integrity is not that great.
 
Dirty Penguin

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
Revoltingest said:
I see this info on Fox News, other sources disrespected on RF, & unheard of news outlets,
but not on any of the favored ones like Huff Po, NYT, NPR, Salon, Wa Po.
So is all this info just fabricated?
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News
Was Brown attacking Wilson, or just walking down the street when shot?
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I think according to the coronors report Brown had no defensive wounds nor was he shot at close range nor was there any gun powder residue on him. This to me would indicate that earlier reports and the testimony from police that brown was struggling with the officer for his gun in the car as well as a shot fired in/near the car as they were wrestling in the car are not true.....:shrug:

I can't speak to the news outlets because I don't typically read/watch Fox news. I think Info Wars was on the scene as well and as wacky (IMO) as they are it seems the one reporter on the scene covered some angles that others didn't....including Fox. In fact...as far to the right and outer space as Info Wars is the reporter on the scene bashed Fox for their characterization of police "helping' reporters and not hurting them...All fine and well until we actually examine the footage of police shooting rubber bullets at the media and gassing them with tear gas. I simply say we shouldn't rely on one source for info.I typically go to that particular town's newspaper/websites for info......
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
lewisnotmiller said:
And given that Psychoslice is an Aussie, I can offer some reputable local info...

http://www98.griffith.edu.au/dspace/bitstream/handle/10072/27745/56521_1.pdf;jsessionid=25FA646B7E0BC4540F8DC35E16C0F27A?sequence=1

Couple of key points...(study looked at all police deaths from 1838 - 2007)



Police deaths between 2001 and 2007 were 5, if excluding accidentals. 4 shot, 1 unknown (MIA?). Not even one a year.
Peak shooting deaths were in 1861-1870, where 15 police were shot and killed in line of duty.

Motor Vehicle accidents are by the far the most likely way for a police officer to be killed.

I'm not sticking up for low-lifes. I am suggesting that the police are not a law unto themselves. They are supposed to be accountable for their actions. They are NOT allowed to shoot 'low-lifes'...at least not unless that low-life happens to be taking action putting someone's life in immediate danger.

Unarmed 'low-lifes' are not collateral damage in a war to keep the streets safe. As a society, we need to have a higher demand on those entrusted to enforce THE LAW.
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Of course if the cop was wrong then he deserves what he gets, I just hate when everyone sticks up for the other side just because they hate cops. Without police or societies would crumble, of course there is always going to be the bad cop, but that is human nature, there's good and bad in all groups of people, when a cop pulls a gun on you, you don't have to be that intelligent to know to stop in your tracks.
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
freethinker44 said:
Nope, they don't. Compared to other professions being a cop is actually pretty safe.

Here's is some data from 2013:

Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths in 2014

So in 2013 only 27 cops died from gunfire in the entire country. That's less than 1 cop per state. Less than 1 cop per state in an entire year is "all the time"?
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List of American police officers killed in the line of duty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Overview by year[edit]

2010[edit]

2010 was one of the deadliest years on record for US law enforcement in nearly two decades.[1]

2011[edit]

The FBI reported that in 2011, "72 law enforcement officers from around the nation were killed in the line of duty, while another 53 officers died in accidents while performing their duties."[2] NBC News reported 165 dead.[3]

2012[edit]

For 2012, the Officer Down Memorial Page records 120 deaths in the line of duty.[4] The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund counted 127 federal, state and local officers to have been killed in 2012.
 
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