Flood Evidences — revised

[sooda]

The statement that it originated with a single historic event is
as evidence-free as the story itself.

Who has claimed it was a single, historic event?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

If he had lied then that would be lost to history,
along with his hatchet.

No. He kept the hatchet so that he would perpetually have an ax to grind. At least that is the story I just came up with. If I repeat it, how long until it becomes the truth for some readers?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Not sure. I do know that Babylonians also had sailboats 5,000 years ago.

https://www.brighthubengineering.com/marine-history/78133-the-sailboats-of-ancient-mesopotamia/

On further reading, it seems those rivers were navigated with a variety of fairly sizable craft, including sail boats. Some of these are still being used.

"Traditional sailing craft still in use include muhaylahs and safīnahs that are 30 to 80 feet (9 to 24 metres) long, with a capacity of up to 50 tons".

Tigris-Euphrates river system - Economy

The idea that Noah would not have had access to some of the finer details of ship construction and that he received his blueprints through magic is even more silly now.

 

[Audie]

No. He kept the hatchet so that he would perpetually have an ax to grind. At least that is the story I just came up with. If I repeat it, how long until it becomes the truth for some readers?

You know, the "this is his hatchet, handle replaced
6 times, and the head once"

 

[sooda]

On further reading, it seems those rivers were navigated with a variety of fairly sizable craft, including sail boats. Some of these are still being used.

"Traditional sailing craft still in use include muhaylahs and safīnahs that are 30 to 80 feet (9 to 24 metres) long, with a capacity of up to 50 tons".

Tigris-Euphrates river system - Economy

The idea that Noah would not have had access to some of the finer details of ship construction and that he received his blueprints through magic is even more silly now.

The Babylonians were farming and inventing stuff a thousand years before Adam and Eve.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You know, the "this is his hatchet, handle replaced
6 times, and the head once"

That does not figure. No creationist ever replaces the head.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The Babylonians were farming and inventing stuff a thousand years before Adam and Eve.

There you go again, using facts. When will you ever learn. LOL!

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You know, the "this is his hatchet, handle replaced
6 times, and the head once"

Didn't he cut fence posts with that hatchet or was that the ghost of Lincoln?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You know, the "this is his hatchet, handle replaced
6 times, and the head once"

I may be splitting hairs, but it was splitting rails that the ghost of Lincoln did.

 

[sooda]

There you go again, using facts. When will you ever learn. LOL!

Consider the time frame..

Aesop was a Greek storyteller born in approximately 620 BCE.

Tradition says he was born as a slave, but developed a real talent for fables that were used to teach truths in a simple, understandable way.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Consider the time frame..

Aesop was a Greek storyteller born in approximately 620 BCE.

Tradition says he was born as a slave, but developed a real talent for fables that were used to teach truths in a simple, understandable way.

Wow! I never thought about that. Cultural contamination and a penchant for incorporating the cultural tales of other lands into personal stories would account for much of the historicity that is claimed to be fact.

 

[sooda]

Wow! I never thought about that. Cultural contamination and a penchant for incorporating the cultural tales of other lands into personal stories would account for much of the historicity that is claimed to be fact.

Exactly.. A fable is about animals.. but the purpose of the story telling is the same.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Exactly.. A fable is about animals.. but the purpose of the story telling is the same.

The fact that ancient people were isolated from a grander understanding of the world often overshadows the fact that they still had a very rich culture and valuable wisdom. I think that the arrogance of knowledge and the demand that stories be seen as infallible overwhelm those facts from two different directions at times. It is good to discuss what those intelligent people could really do with the resources that were at their disposal.

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[Audie]

Wow! I never thought about that. Cultural contamination and a penchant for incorporating the cultural tales of other lands into personal stories would account for much of the historicity that is claimed to be fact.

The grim spectre of cultural appropriation

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The grim spectre of cultural appropriation

It was a more innocent time of conflict, atrocities and human suffering.

It does grind my gears when I see some city boy actor playing a hillbilly on the big screen. Stealing my culture. The nerve.

 

[sooda]

The fact that ancient people were isolated from a grander understanding of the world often overshadows the fact that they still had a very rich culture and valuable wisdom. I think that the arrogance of knowledge and the demand that stories be seen as infallible overwhelm those facts from two different directions at times. It is good to discuss what those intelligent people could really do with the resources that were at their disposal.

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I think they must have been very intelligent.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I think they must have been very intelligent.

I think they had intelligent people just like we do today. They just did not know as much. I think a lot of what you post expresses the fact that these were not stupid people and were actually very complex. Just ignorant of a good deal of information that we take for granted these days.

 

[sooda]

I think they had intelligent people just like we do today. They just did not know as much. I think a lot of what you post expresses the fact that these were not stupid people and were actually very complex. Just ignorant of a good deal of information that we take for granted these days.

They seem to catch on pretty quickly to changing technologies.

 

[Audie]

Someone go catch a floody

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Someone go catch a floody

I don't know where they went. Probably out looking for flash-frozen mammoth burgers.