Forgiveness

[Jimmy]

No I don't, i do not know where you get your stupid ideas from, you know zilch about me or how i handle my life. I simply do not care about them. And i think is arrogant ignorance to make assumptions about a persons life based on your own feelings

My ideas aren’t stupid. I don’t know u but I know about forgiving someone who makes mistakes. I even know about forgiving someone who shows no remorse because I know something is not right within them.

 

[Callisto]

I call it good at forgetting. What’s the First feeling or thought that comes to mind when you think of somebody you haven’t forgiven? Prolly not a good thought. Atleast you can forget. That’s a plus

Then you would be flat-out wrong. I don't need to forgive or forget. It's called learning from past experiences and, hopefully learning to avoid making similar mistakes.

 

[Jimmy]

That may be true for you but it certainly is not true for me or necessarily anyone else.

I disagree

 

[Callisto]

Forgetting works well for those who can’t forgive.

Don't need to forget, I simply don't dwell on the past. There's a difference.

 

[Jimmy]

Is wanting to see someone getting killed for a wrongdoing compatible with forgiving that person?

What? I don’t know what you’re talking about?

 

[Callisto]

I disagree

Don't care.

 

[Koldo]

Forgetting has served you well.

Forgetting works well for those who can’t forgive.

It looks like you have a hard time comprehending that people don't function the same way as you do...

 

[Koldo]

What? I don’t know what you’re talking about?

It is a simple question. Is it not?

 

[Jimmy]

Don't need to forget, I simply don't dwell on the past. There's a difference.

And I’m sure you push that person out of your mind quickly. Otherwise your hatred would swell.

 

[Jimmy]

It looks like you have a hard time comprehending that people don't function the same way as you do...

Not at all. I disagree with them though. I can’t do that?

 

[Jimmy]

Then you would be flat-out wrong. I don't need to forgive or forget. It's called learning from past experiences and, hopefully learning to avoid making similar mistakes.

If it works for you it’s all good

 

[Koldo]

Not at all. I disagree with them though. I can’t do that?

You are not merely disagreing. You are saying they are feeling things they don't, or forgetting things they don't claim to be forgetting.

 

[Callisto]

And I’m sure you push that person out of your mind quickly. Otherwise your hatred would swell.

Not thinking about something isn't the same as forgetting. I don't dwell on every pleasant or other memorable moment from the past, either. That doesn't mean they're forgotten, they're just not pertinent to the here and now nor to the future.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I was just talking to my counselor about this since forgiving a loved one is an issue for me. She said what she tells her clients is that there is no "should" when it comes to forgiveness since every person and every situation is different. She also said she thinks that religion puts too many expectations on people to forgive and I could not agree with her more.

I agree with your counselor.

I agree. Forgiveness shouldn't be a blanket expectation. Some people clearly don't deserve it amd will continue to wrong us regardless, so they are off the list. Some won't acknowledge the wrong done so that's a barrier tiwards forgiveness in itself. There just are some times people don't deserve it.

And I completely agree with you. There are some people that I know who don't deserve my forgiveness, and they would continue to hurt me if given the chance. Some are family, so I have cut them out of my life and no longer consider them family. And when the time is right for me, I'll legally cut them off.

 

[Callisto]

If it works for you it’s all good

Works extremely well. Anyone who gets hung up on the past should try it.

 

[Jimmy]

You are not merely disagreing. You are saying they are feeling things they don't, or forgetting things they don't claim to be forgetting.

It’s still a disagreement. I believe they have built up strong defense mechanisms to cope with it. I don’t think that’s a good idea so that’s where I disagree. They don’t see it it that way. They simply see it as moving on. Hey, if their cool with it and it works for them then it’s all good. However I am entitled to my opinion.

 

[Jimmy]

Works extremely well. Anyone who gets hung up on the past should try it.

Yes I agree. Obsessive thoughts serve no one.

 

[Jimmy]

Not thinking about something isn't the same as forgetting. I don't dwell on every pleasant or other memorable moment from the past, either. That doesn't mean they're forgotten, they're just not pertinent to the here and now nor to the future.

This is obviously a touchy situation. People are set in their ways. These debates will no doubt change anybody.

 

[Callisto]

It’s still a disagreement. I believe they have built up strong defense mechanisms to cope with it. I don’t think that’s a good idea so that’s where I disagree. They don’t see it it that way. They simply see it as moving on. Hey, if their cool with it and it works for them then it’s all good. However I am entitled to my opinion.

Except there's no need for coping mechanisms. If something no longer affects the person, then where is the need to develop a means to cope with something that doesn't impact their life?

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

You got that all wrong

In your personal opinion, of course. You keep forgetting to mention that your opinion is just your opinion, which isn't an actual fact that others agree with.