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Freemasonry and Satanism

Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
ScuzManiac said:
It's not my fault you took what I said out of context...

What I said means this:

I'm sure it isn't bad for the people it benefits (the people that get rich).

I'm sure it is bad for the people it has an impact on (the people that get poor).

Like I said before, it depends on how you look at it.

Or from the point of view that you look at it.
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All right. You don't believe in Social Justice. Full stop
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Hay85 said:
This sarcasm is a bit inappropriate...no offense.
As I said, I don't care if Freemasonry is based upon good principles. It certainly is.

But what I care about is that two Italian Freemasons, who are very powerful Bankers will rot in Hell. Because whoever supports Bank seigniorage belongs to Hell.

The only thing that gives me joy is to know that these two people will die sooner or later (well, sooner than late) and they will reach Hell, where they belong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPtCbp9opgU
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1) You're not a Freemason -- in fact, you deride Freemasonry -- so you don't get to decide what's "inappropriate."

2) Why would anyone take joy in the death of a fellow human being??? That seems more than a little :run:
to me.
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
sojourner said:
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2) Why would anyone take joy in the death of a fellow human being??? That seems more than a little :run:
to me.
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I don't wish they died. I want them to be happy, rich, healthy and that they live as long as possible.

But I just want something from them....a little little thing they don't care about:
their soul. In Hell. forever
 
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sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Hay85 said:
I don't wish they died. I want them to be happy, rich, healthy and that they live as long as possible.

But I just want something from them....a little little thing they don't care about:
their soul. In Hell. forever
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You left out part of my quote that needs to be there. It said:
1) You're not a Freemason -- in fact, you deride Freemasonry -- so you don't get to decide what's "inappropriate."
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With regard to your response to the second point: Why would anyone be happy about the loss of a human soul? That seems extreme and self-centered.
 
Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm not in any kind of masonry, but I feel persuaded that there is nothing supernatural about them. I am a little surprised that anyone joins, but I admit to joining a secret organization myself once, long ago. Yes, I joined a secret organization. It was very foolish of me. Now wherever I go, whatever I do, I must always be a member. Sometimes I forget.
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
sojourner said:
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With regard to your response to the second point: Why would anyone be happy about the loss of a human soul? That seems extreme and self-centered.
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well...people cannot have everything. They have to make a choice.
If you want to get richer and richer and destroy the economy of European countries by sucking their blood as a leech, you have to accept the consequences.

and the consequence for insatiable money-hunger is Hell.
it would be certainly forgiven if it didn't provoke the other people's impoverishment.
but it does provoke it.

If they don't want to go to Hell, then why they keep doing what they do?
 
Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
sojourner said:
Freemasonry isn't secret, and you can always demit if you want.
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The bottom line is that even if Freemasonry is secretive, no organization survives multiple generations without altruistic motives. 'Evil organizations' just have no staying power. That is one of the ways of knowing whether something has value.

Roman Catholic Church is a prime example. Here we have an organization with both secret practices and members who are guilty of many nonsensical offences, yet it survives. Why? Because its not focused on evil. If it were about evil it would vanish within a generation or two.

True, some organizations are better than others.
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Hay85 said:
In an interview Mario Monti replied he was not a Freemason, but actually he is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPD9d8BeTJc

If Freemasonry has nothing to hide, and nothing to be ashamed of, then why do Freemasons tend to deny that they are?
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In my experience, they don't tend to do that. Most Freemasons don't go around advertising the fact, because we're humble. But if asked, we'll tell the truth, because truth is something we hold dear.
 
1137

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I've always thought of the Masons as a gentlemen's club where wearing silly costumes is not frowned upon. Haha! A friend of mine long ago had many Masons in her family who all said essentially the same thing. Then again, maybe that's what they want me to think!
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
1137 said:
I've always thought of the Masons as a gentlemen's club where wearing silly costumes is not frowned upon. Haha! A friend of mine long ago had many Masons in her family who all said essentially the same thing. Then again, maybe that's what they want me to think!
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It's a fraternity -- not a social/service club, like Kiwanis or Rotary. But they're essentially right.
 
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