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[BenTheBeliever]

Yes, god will kill your baby to teach you to love him. I thought you were a decent person. Now I'm not so sure.

I should of not waste so much time on you. People like yourself want something or someone to blame for everything. There is no good asnwer to give you unless we put God down. That is the only way you guys seem happy with what people say. I am sorry but i won't do that. i can see we will not get along on here. you chose to be negitive and blame God and i chose not to blame God and to see the good in everything no matter what happens.

 

[viole]

I should of not waste so much time on you. People like yourself want something or someone to blame for everything. There is no good asnwer to give you unless we put God down. That is the only way you guys seem happy with what people say. I am sorry but i won't do that. i can see we will not get along on here. you chose to be negitive and blame God and i chose not to blame God and to see the good in everything no matter what happens.

No matter what happens? Was the holocaust good from your point of view?

Ciao

- viole

 

[BenTheBeliever]

No matter what happens? Was the holocaust good from your point of view?

Ciao

- viole

no it was not. but it was not God fault. hitler was an evil man.

 

[viole]

no it was not. but it was not God fault. hitler was an evil man.

So, do you agree that there is at least an event that happened for which you are incapable to see any good?

I ask because in your previous post you asserted that you can see the good in basically anything that can happen.

Ciao

- viole

 

[BenTheBeliever]

So, do you agree that there is at least an event that happened for which you are incapable to see any good?

I ask because in your previous post you asserted that you can see the good in basically anything that can happen.

Ciao

- viole

I chose to try to see the good cause if you don't you'll end up not happy. I try to be a postive person. I used to not be postive for years and i came close to killing myself cause i was so unhappy inside. i now chose to be happy no matter what throws at me cause i learned God will always be there no matter what happens and as long as i can breathe then it is a good day

 

[Marisa]

I should of not waste so much time on you. People like yourself want something or someone to blame for everything. There is no good asnwer to give you unless we put God down. That is the only way you guys seem happy with what people say. I am sorry but i won't do that. i can see we will not get along on here. you chose to be negitive and blame God and i chose not to blame God and to see the good in everything no matter what happens.

As long as you keep thumping that "it's god's divine plan" then you're right, there is no good answer but for the wrong reason. Because you're giving a pass to god for killing babies to make a point.

As for myself, I believe that ****ty things happen all the time, there is no god to blame or to thank when things are going well. It's just life, and sometimes it sucks.

Sorry for wasting time on me, eh? Excellent representative of a "loving, merciful" god you are. It sucks majorly when people ask questions we aren't prepared to answer, I understand that. So don't walk away thinking I don't understand you.

 

[BenTheBeliever]

As long as you keep thumping that "it's god's divine plan" then you're right, there is no good answer but for the wrong reason. Because you're giving a pass to god for killing babies to make a point.

As for myself, I believe that ****ty things happen all the time, there is no god to blame or to thank when things are going well. It's just life, and sometimes it sucks.

Sorry for wasting time on me, eh? Excellent representative of a "loving, merciful" god you are. It sucks majorly when people ask questions we aren't prepared to answer, I understand that. So don't walk away thinking I don't understand you.

i agree things happen. but what is wrong with letting someone know that there is pain will not be vain

 

[Marisa]

i agree things happen. but what is wrong with letting someone know that there is pain will not be vain

As I have said almost until I'm blue in the face, nothing. It's the whole "you're baby died as part of god's plan" thing that really offends some people. I don't understand why that's such a hard concept to grasp? Sometimes, the only thing that is completely true is that you are very sorry someone is suffering, and that you're here for them if they want to talk, and if they need anything at all they should just let you know. While someone has suffered a devastating loss is not the time to try and secure points for god. If he exists, and he's not the schmuck the bible paints him as, he won't have a problem with you not preying on the vulnerable on his behalf.

 

[BenTheBeliever]

As I have said almost until I'm blue in the face, nothing. It's the whole "you're baby died as part of god's plan" thing that really offends some people. I don't understand why that's such a hard concept to grasp? Sometimes, the only thing that is completely true is that you are very sorry someone is suffering, and that you're here for them if they want to talk, and if they need anything at all they should just let you know. While someone has suffered a devastating loss is not the time to try and secure points for god. If he exists, and he's not the schmuck the bible paints him as, he won't have a problem with you not preying on the vulnerable on his behalf.

i say that cause i seen first hand God use a baby's death to do miracles for not just the griving parents but others as well. every life has a purpose even if it is just to touched the mom and dad's life or the nurses life that life still matters and God still had a purpose for that life.

 

[viole]

I chose to try to see the good cause if you don't you'll end up not happy. I try to be a postive person. I used to not be postive for years and i came close to killing myself cause i was so unhappy inside. i now chose to be happy no matter what throws at me cause i learned God will always be there no matter what happens and as long as i can breathe then it is a good day

Very interesting, but that does not address my question.

Do you agree that there are events, or at least one, for which you cannot possibly see any good (offsetting the bad) ?

Ciao

- viole

 

[BenTheBeliever]

My wife like to design clothes. A good friend of her's from HS had a still born. From her still born death she came up with an idea to make dresses and suits for still borns. Even though her baby sadly died her child still had a purpose and that purpose inspired her mom to do something with her life.

 

[BenTheBeliever]

Very interesting, but that does not address my question.

Do you agree that there are events, or at least one, for which you cannot possibly see any good (offsetting the bad) ?

Ciao

- viole

Can good not come out from bad things?

 

[viole]

Can good not come out from bad things?

I don't see how the horrible death of six millions innocents can cause any offsetting good. Maybe you can, I cannot.

True, Hitler was an evil person, but God seems capable of causing miscarriages to perform, allegedely, miracles on the grieving parents. So, why did He not miscarriage Hitler? Is the fate of 6 million innocents less important than the spiritual win of some parents?

By the way, if good makes sense only in the presence of evil, do you think there is evil in Heaven?

Ciao

- viole

 

[BenTheBeliever]

I don't see how the horrible death of six millions innocents can cause any offsetting good. Maybe you can, I cannot.

True, Hitler was an evil person, but God seems capable of causing miscarriages to perform, allegedely, miracles on the grieving parents. So, why did He not miscarriage Hitler? Is the fate of 6 million innocents less important than the spiritual win of some parents?

By the way, if good makes sense only in the presence of evil, do you think there is evil in Heaven?

Ciao

- viole

One thing i think that has come out of it was the book the diary of annie frank. that book has inspired so many. i chose to look at a bigger picture. i chose to see even if one person is able to make a differences that is what matters.

 

[Marisa]

i say that cause i seen first hand God use a baby's death to do miracles for not just the griving parents but others as well. every life has a purpose even if it is just to touched the mom and dad's life or the nurses life that life still matters and God still had a purpose for that life.

What an impotent god, who has to kill a child in order to do something nice.

I'm not doing this to be an ***, I'm doing this to show you how you sound. It's disgusting. You keep telling me you're wasting your time on me, yet you keep right on with your vile apologies for an infanticidal maniac.

 

[Marisa]

Can good not come out from bad things?

Is your god so pathetic as to be incapable of letting good happen just because, and not requiring someone to die first?

 

[Marisa]

One thing i think that has come out of it was the book the diary of annie frank. that book has inspired so many. i chose to look at a bigger picture. i chose to see even if one person is able to make a differences that is what matters.

Imagine how inspiring she could have been had she not been gassed by the Nazis.

 

[BenTheBeliever]

What an impotent god, who has to kill a child in order to do something nice.

I'm not doing this to be an ***, I'm doing this to show you how you sound. It's disgusting. You keep telling me you're wasting your time on me, yet you keep right on with your vile apologies for an infanticidal maniac.

Dont you see i don't care how i sound to you. I have seen God use death to inspire and help others. If you don't like it to bad God does not need your permission to move and do things

 

[viole]

One thing i think that has come out of it was the book the diary of annie frank. that book has inspired so many. i chose to look at a bigger picture. i chose to see even if one person is able to make a differences that is what matters.

So, do you think that diary of Annie Frank was worth the death of six million people, children, women, old people, etc.?
And that is why God did not miscarriaged Hitler, so that we can have Annie Frank diary. Great. If I were God, I would make things so that we do not need such diaries to start with, wouldn't you?

By the way, most of these people will go to Hell, for not having accepted your Jesus as Lord and Saviour. They are probably gnashing their teeth as we speak. So, we have a double damage here.

Are you really sure you are worshipping the right Guy?

Ciao

- viole

 

[BenTheBeliever]

Imagine how inspiring she could have been had she not been gassed by the Nazis.

i agree but she did die sadly. at least now her death is not in vain. her life can help so many others. to me that is imporant. and that gives a life purpose