Girl, 6, Handcuffed in school because of temper tantrum.

[McBell]

I am sorry I do not have a link to the source on hand. And that may not be Florida's state law. I know I was not allowed to handcuff 6 year olds when I was a police officer,

I specifically asked for ANY law from ANY state that says a police officer is not allowed to handcuff minors.
In fact, I HAVE found several sources that state a police officer IS allowed to handcuff a minor to stop or prevent damage to the minor, another person, or to property.

So no offense, but I do not believe you.

nor would I have felt the need to traumatize a child in that way.

irrelevant appeal to emotion.
Nice try though.

I am sorry I was under the impression that it was a law enforcement official that did this, that she was taken away in a police car, and that this all took place at a publicly regulated school.

You made an assumption:

The sheriff's report said she was yelling, throwing things and hit the principal, who is eight months pregnant. This time, she wasn't handcuffed. She was committed to a mental facility.

The article in the OP does not state one way or another.
So you either have another source or you are making unsubstantiated assumptions.

Are we now saying it was a family member that handcuffed the child and dragged her away in a stolen squad car or something?

The article in the OP doe snot say either way.
Again, you either have another source or you are making unsubstantiated assumptions.

STRAWMAN ALERT!!
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I would like to hear how this has nothing to do with the state.

Who said that the state had nothing to do with it?
I want your source that says that the state "Stepped In".

Or are we right back to you making unsubstantiated claims?

 

[Smoke]

Are you saying that if the parents are dumb and make the wrong choices that the child should be battered by police at school?

If handcuffing an individual were criminal battery, no one could be legally handcuffed.

 

[McBell]

Are you saying that if the parents are dumb and make the wrong choices that the child should be battered by police at school?

Wow, talk about jumping off the deep end to push your own agenda....

 

[Smoke]

I have the RIGHT that my child can go to school without being abused or disrupted in his day from a "wild child".I have the RIGHT and so do my children to be able to go to school without the principle having to be beat up and the police called .

Exactly. Also, if the school personnel allow this child to run wild, they're opening themselves and the district to liability for damages and injuries she might cause.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Wow, talk about jumping off the deep end to push your own agenda....

If handcuffing an individual were criminal battery, no one could be legally handcuffed.

The procedure of handcuffing an individual involves putting one cuff around each wrist. This deputy put one cuff around both wrists. This is not how the handcuffs were designed to be used. They left marks on the girl's wrists from being improperly used. The handcuffs were being used to cause bodily harm to the minor child, hence they were being used as a weapon. That is what makes this a case of felony level aggravated battery. I take it you are not a parent so you don't know what it is like to have your children abused by a state appointed official.

 

[Smoke]

The procedure of handcuffing an individual involves putting one cuff around each wrist. This deputy put one cuff around both wrists. This is not how the handcuffs were designed to be used. They left marks on the girl's wrists from being improperly used. The handcuffs were being used to cause bodily harm to the minor child, hence they were being used as a weapon. That is what makes this a case of felony level aggravated battery.

Wrong again.

784.045 Aggravated battery.--

(1) (a) A person commits aggravated battery who, in committing battery:

1. Intentionally or knowingly causes great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement; or

2. Uses a deadly weapon.​

I take it you are not a parent so you don't know what it is like to have your children abused by a state appointed official.

I take it that if you are a parent your children are insufferable.

 

[Circle_One]

The procedure of handcuffing an individual involves putting one cuff around each wrist. This deputy put one cuff around both wrists. This is not how the handcuffs were designed to be used. They left marks on the girl's wrists from being improperly used. The handcuffs were being used to cause bodily harm to the minor child, hence they were being used as a weapon. That is what makes this a case of felony level aggravated battery. I take it you are not a parent so you don't know what it is like to have your children abused by a state appointed official.

And if left to continue with her tantrum, what kind of "bodily harm" would the child have done to the pregnant principal? I assume that THAT would be the ok kind of bodily harm?

EDIT: *Raises hand* I'm a parent. And I can tell you, my child would never need to be "abused" by a state official, because he would never, EVER act this way. I've raised him better than that.

 

[McBell]

That is what makes this a case of felony level aggravated battery.

So you say.
Seems that they say something different in PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla...

I take it you are not a parent so you don't know what it is like to have your children abused by a state appointed official.

You just love to jump to all manner of conclusions based solely upon ignorant assumption, don't you?

 

[McBell]

Wrong again.

784.045 Aggravated battery.--

(1) (a) A person commits aggravated battery who, in committing battery:

1. Intentionally or knowingly causes great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement; or

2. Uses a deadly weapon.​

I take it that if you are a parent your children are insufferable.

one has to wonder where it was exactly he was a cop at.....

 

[Sunstone]

Handcuffing a six year old? It's about time someone did something about these six year old domestic terrorists. I for one do not believe any measures used to subdue the menance are unreasonable.

 

[YmirGF]

Handcuffing a six year old? It's about time someone did something about these six year old domestic terrorists. I for one do not believe any measures used to subdue the menance are unreasonable.

Perhaps they should just taser the little buggers. Our Mounties used one (ok, ok, ok - several times) at the Vancouver airport not too long ago on a man visiting from Poland. Apparently he didn't enjoy it much, but he was dead calm afterward.

 

[McBell]

Perhaps they should just taser the little buggers.

I've already said that back on like page one....

 

[Circle_One]

Perhaps they should just taser the little buggers. Our Mounties used one (ok, ok, ok - several times) at the Vancouver airport not too long ago on a man visiting from Poland. Apparently he didn't enjoy it much, but he was dead calm afterward.

Ohh... bad joke, Ymir, bad joke :biglaugh:

 

[blackout]

Yeah, except obviously, the parents aren't raising her, are they? If they were, she wouldn't be acting the way she did.

I can tell you no child of mine would ever throw a tantrum like that. Justyce sure as hell would never have the balls to even THINK he could get away with something like that. I'd beat his *** before the thought even left his mind.

And that would get child protective services in just as quick.

 

[blackout]

Personal experience has shown me
that some people in authoritative positions
use/throw around the word "Emergency"
to instigate action/intrusion
that is completely unwaranted.

 

[blackout]

Maybe for kids they could have a gentler kind of restraint?

Something made out of cloth,
instead of metal?
Something that won't bruise the child?

You know, one of the first thing
protective services asks
is if any of the kids have any visible bruises.

The police should be held to the same standard.

She was a little kid for heavens sake.

A tied up SCARF would have kept the little things hands restrained.
Or a blanket, wrapped as a cloak, and then tied like a bathrobe.
You can hold the child securely that way from behind,
and handle her gently.
It's a good way to pick up a little animal that needs it's nails clipped.
Wrap it up and carry it.
Gently.
Speak softly to it.
No big deal.

We should always do our best to treat children with care, and love.
Even when they are throwing a tantrum.
You can be firm, and gentle at the same time.

She was not a criminal,
but a frustrated little child.

ugh.

I'm sorry, but some of you people are really harsh.

We're talking about a 6 year old girl here.
*pictures her own 6 year olds tiny/fragile frame*

 

[blackout]

That was temporay shelter for a VIOLENT out of control child.She was not "committed".Her parents collected her from that fascility sounds like (if Im not mistaken) when they came to get her the same day..

Where would YOU suggest you put a violent out of control 6 year old?If they had taken her to the police station then the police would be critisized for "arresting a 6 year old".

What were the options?

Are you seriously suggestign she should have been allowed to stay at school for how ever amount of time and tear the **** out of the principles office and attacking people while they stood there with their hands at their sides?

Untill the parents got their and said "thanks" and then dropped her back off the next morning for school?

Love

Dallas

I have to be honest with you DA,
If I weren't there in the room to witness the incident mySelf?

Well... I have seen officials describe
one thing
as quite another.
People "see" what they are inclined to see.
Parents and Officials alike.

Sometimes people are "inclined" to react/over-react
in ways, and for reasons you would never guess.
yes. Even police officers.

I'm just saying...

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It seems that the parents and cops are both in the wrong. The parents for not taking a behavioral problem seriously enough, and the cops for actually cuffing a little girl. She might have been unruly, but cuffing her? I fail to see how a little girl could have put the cops in any real harm to have required cuffing her, especially if her wrists were so small they only used one cuff.
I just wonder if this comment is true, if it is, then the school isn't too good either.

As the Mother of a Port St Lucie Student, This Story Brought Back Some Horrific Memories . My Daughter is Diabetic . When She was In the 6th Grade At Norhtport Middle School ,She Had a Low Blood Sugar Reaction and Sat on the Floor of the Nurses Office Obviously in Distress. Well, Because She Refused to Get Up off the Floor the School Officer Tryed to Pick Her Up and Because My Daughter Didnt Cooperate , She Was Handcuffed , Put in the Back of a Police Car and Brought to Rock Rd !! I Lived Close to The School and Was There Moments After I Heard That My Daughter Was In The Nurses Office . The Officer Refused to Remove The Handcuffs Because During My Childs Low Blood Sugar Reaction She Kicked The Officer Who in Turn Charged Her With Assault and Battery on a Police Officer. She Was Then Transported to Rock Rd , Finger Printed and Booked. I Followed The Police Car to Rock Rd and After My Daughter Was Processed I Was Allowed to Take Her Home. Her Blood Glucose Level After This Experience Dropped to 42 and Needless to Say She Was in Serious Trouble. We Of Course , Had to Go to Court and My Child Had to Do Community Service , in Order to Have This Incident Removed From Her Record. A Juice Box, Sugar Cookie and a Proffesional Staff Could of Stopped This From Happening. This is The Worst of Experiences We Have Had With the Port St Lucie School System .

 

[blackout]

As the Mother of a Port St Lucie Student, This Story Brought Back Some Horrific Memories . My Daughter is Diabetic . When She was In the 6th Grade At Norhtport Middle School ,She Had a Low Blood Sugar Reaction and Sat on the Floor of the Nurses Office Obviously in Distress. Well, Because She Refused to Get Up off the Floor the School Officer Tryed to Pick Her Up and Because My Daughter Didnt Cooperate , She Was Handcuffed , Put in the Back of a Police Car and Brought to Rock Rd !! I Lived Close to The School and Was There Moments After I Heard That My Daughter Was In The Nurses Office . The Officer Refused to Remove The Handcuffs Because During My Childs Low Blood Sugar Reaction She Kicked The Officer Who in Turn Charged Her With Assault and Battery on a Police Officer. She Was Then Transported to Rock Rd , Finger Printed and Booked. I Followed The Police Car to Rock Rd and After My Daughter Was Processed I Was Allowed to Take Her Home. Her Blood Glucose Level After This Experience Dropped to 42 and Needless to Say She Was in Serious Trouble. We Of Course , Had to Go to Court and My Child Had to Do Community Service , in Order to Have This Incident Removed From Her Record. A Juice Box, Sugar Cookie and a Proffesional Staff Could of Stopped This From Happening. This is The Worst of Experiences We Have Had With the Port St Lucie School System

Stupid *****.

Every Official in this story should be sued.
Might teach them something about responsible "officialing".
And child endangerment... and welfare...

(aparantely they suck at it)

Instead of the 6th grader doing community service,
every adult involved should have been court ordered to issue her a written and official apology.

 

[YmirGF]

I've already said that back on like page one....

Must have, like, missed it.

As the Mother of a Port St Lucie Student, This Story Brought Back Some Horrific Memories . My Daughter is Diabetic . When She was In the 6th Grade At Norhtport Middle School ,She Had a Low Blood Sugar Reaction and Sat on the Floor of the Nurses Office Obviously in Distress. Well, Because She Refused to Get Up off the Floor the School Officer Tryed to Pick Her Up and Because My Daughter Didnt Cooperate , She Was Handcuffed , Put in the Back of a Police Car and Brought to Rock Rd !! I Lived Close to The School and Was There Moments After I Heard That My Daughter Was In The Nurses Office . The Officer Refused to Remove The Handcuffs Because During My Childs Low Blood Sugar Reaction She Kicked The Officer Who in Turn Charged Her With Assault and Battery on a Police Officer. She Was Then Transported to Rock Rd , Finger Printed and Booked. I Followed The Police Car to Rock Rd and After My Daughter Was Processed I Was Allowed to Take Her Home. Her Blood Glucose Level After This Experience Dropped to 42 and Needless to Say She Was in Serious Trouble. We Of Course , Had to Go to Court and My Child Had to Do Community Service , in Order to Have This Incident Removed From Her Record. A Juice Box, Sugar Cookie and a Proffesional Staff Could of Stopped This From Happening. This is The Worst of Experiences We Have Had With the Port St Lucie School System .

Aside: Is it me, or is there something terribly wrong with people who write like this. Capitalizing every other word takes effort. Strange stuff.