God’s Method of delivering messages, is it flawed?

[Ancient Soul]

What a waste if time to quote a bunch of things I said just to try to humiliate me.

Ask me if I care what anyone thinks of me. I could not care less. My image on a forum means nothing to me. The only thing that matters is that I know I am honest and that I treat other people kindly and with dignity and respect. Pointing out other people's behavior and their faults is not my modus operandi and that is another teaching I got from my religion.

“The most hateful characteristic of man is fault-finding.” (‘Abdu’l-Bahá, Star of the West, Vol. IV, No.11, p. 192)

“Beware lest ye offend the feelings of anyone, or sadden the heart of any person,or move the tongue in reproach of and finding fault with anybody, whether he is friend or stranger, believer or enemy . . . Beware, beware that any one rebuke or reproach a soul, though he may be an ill-wisher and an ill-doer.” (Abdu’l-Bahá, Tablets of Abdu’l-Bahá v1, p. 44)

“All religions teach that we should love one another; that we should seek out our own shortcomings before we presume to condemn the faults of others, that we must not consider ourselves superior to our neighbours! We must be careful not to exalt ourselves lest we be humiliated.” (Abdu’l-Bahá, Paris Talks, p. 147)

The more you criticize me or others the worse you make yourself look to good people on this forum who never do that, but those people are usually too nice to tell you that. I am only telling you as a courtesy. If you were reading and noticing how other people treat other people on this forum, you would realize how different you are from the norm, but I guess looking at your own behavior is not something you do because you are too busy looking at the behavior and faults of others.

26: O SON OF BEING! How couldst thou forget thine own faults and busy thyself with the faults of others? Whoso doeth this is accursed of Me.The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 10

Nobody is accusing you of anything, I re-posted everything so that the deceit is self evident, so that everyone can see for themselves.

And although I've asked you before, were you a Christian at one time?

I ask because you sure do love to play all the classic Christian games of avoidance they all use, including this arrogant "persecution complex" one.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

That is not true. There is hardly any chance of life on Venus and Mars, and life on the rest of planets is impossible. Hath, not hath.

They said that at one time about life at the bottom of the ocean and in the boiling hot volcanic pools, then life is found.

Of course, we either have to wait until we are visited, or we visit the places. Hopefully one of the mars creatures will fix the broken mars exploration rover and give us a wave

Baha'u'llah did not say we will find intelligent life on all the planets though, just other creatures and other intelligent life we will find. Many may have to stop thinking that human is the only life form that can be intelligent and have the ability to know and Love God though.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I can see that you've gotten the bombastic gobbledygook of Bahá’u’lláh down pat, with a touch of your own condescending arrogance!

Time to move up the ego driven cult leader wannabe ladder!

I can only and will only wish you well and happy in any path you choose.

Regards Tony

 

[Aupmanyav]

“The most hateful characteristic of man is fault-finding.” ‘Abdu’l-Bahá

However, you do not hesitate to tell other religions that they are faulty! What double-speak!

 

[Trailblazer]

Nobody is accusing you of anything, I re-posted everything so that the deceit is self evident, so that everyone can see for themselves.

The hundred-dollar question is why you care what other people SEE about ME.

Do you really think anyone on this forum CARES about what other people are doing? Look around on those forum and you will clearly see that nobody gives a damn about anything but the subjects that they are discussing. They have in interest in pointing out the faults of other people. You are the only one here that I see doing that.

And although I've asked you before, were you a Christian at one time?

No, I was never a Christian.

I ask because you sure do love to play all the classic Christian games of avoidance they all use, including this arrogant "persecution complex" one.

Keep going. You only make yourself look worse and worse to good people with every negative word you say about ther people.
I guess God did not communicate to you not to criticize other people in your NDE.

27: O SON OF MAN! Breathe not the sins of others so long as thou art thyself a sinner. Shouldst thou transgress this command, accursed wouldst thou be, and to this I bear witness.

The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 10

 

[Ancient Soul]

Why not speak for yourself instead of CONSTANTLY criticizing other people?

What does that do for your ego?
Everyone else can see it even if you can't.

I'll criticize those who keep on giving me crappy non-answers all I want. Including your's.

It has nothing to with ego, it's about not accepting crappy non-answers from certain lame posters who cannot back up their claims with anything other that all kinds of avoidance tactics.

It's just plain annoying if someone demands I accept their beliefs and instead of even trying to back up their claims, keep on replying with off-track nonsense to derail the whole thing.

Like:

Ancient Soul - So do you have any proof that your religion came from "god"?
Unless you have absolute proof of that, you cannot really believe any of it.

Other person - I never said I was TOLD to believe any of it, it's what I CHOOSE to believe!!!!

Ancient Soul - Stop with the avoidance tactics. I asked if you had some conclusive proof that your religion came from "god"?
Without that you have no basis to believe any of it.

Other person - Stop making personal attacks. I said nothing about God being evil!

Ancient Soul - NO, enough of the avoidance tactics. I stated this:

"Stop with the avoidance tactics. I asked if you had some conclusive proof that your religion came from "god"?
Without that you have no basis to believe any of it."

So just answer to that.

Other person - I can see that you are possessed by demons and are far from God, you will burn in hell!!!

And on, and on, and on... they go...

It's soooo annoying and stupid.

 

[Trailblazer]

I can only and will only wish you well and happy in any path you choose.

You are a lot more gracious than I am Tony, but then I always remember what Abdu'l-Baha wrote so I never allow people to walk all over me, since I view that as unjust. We all have different personalities though.

“O ye beloved of the Lord! The Kingdom of God is founded upon equity and justice, and also upon mercy, compassion, and kindness to every living soul. Strive ye then with all your heart to treat compassionately all humankind—except for those who have some selfish, private motive, or some disease of the soul. Kindness cannot be shown the tyrant, the deceiver, or the thief, because, far from awakening them to the error of their ways, it maketh them to continue in their perversity as before. No matter how much kindliness ye may expend upon the liar, he will but lie the more, for he believeth you to be deceived, while ye understand him but too well, and only remain silent out of your extreme compassion.” Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, p. 158

 

[Trailblazer]

I'll criticize those who keep on giving me crappy non-answers all I want. Including your's.

Keep going, you only dig your hole deeper and deeper, for all the reasons I gave.

You are not hurting me, you hurt only yourself, and all the "good" Christians here can see it, although they are too kind to say anything, besides the fact that they live by what Jesus taught about doing onto others as they would be done by, judge not lest ye be judged, etc.

Love that Jesus.

 

[Ancient Soul]

The hundred-dollar question is why you care what other people SEE about ME.

Do you really think anyone on this forum CARES about what other people are doing? Look around on those forum and you will clearly see that nobody gives a damn about anything but the subjects that they are discussing. They have in interest in pointing out the faults of other people. You are the only one here that I see doing that.

No, I was never a Christian.

Keep going. You only make yourself look worse and worse to good people with every negative word you say about ther people.
I guess God did not communicate to you not to criticize other people in your NDE.

27: O SON OF MAN! Breathe not the sins of others so long as thou art thyself a sinner. Shouldst thou transgress this command, accursed wouldst thou be, and to this I bear witness.

The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 10

This is one of those pot/kettle replies.

 

[Trailblazer]

This is one of those pot/kettle replies.

No, it is not, because I could not care less what other people think of me unless I am truly dishonest or treating others badly, but since I am not........

Is this all you come to this forum to do, criticize other people?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, ..

Why are you quoting from what Abdul Baha wrote? Did he have any mission from Allah?

.. and all the "good" Christians here can see it, although they are too kind to say anything, besides the fact that they live by what Jesus taught about doing onto others as they would be done by, judge not lest ye be judged, etc.

The good Christians are not in the good books of Bahai Allah. They refuse to accept the Iranian preacher. Bahaollah curses them.

 

[Ancient Soul]

Keep going, you only dig your hole deeper and deeper, for all the reasons I gave.

You are not hurting me, you hurt only yourself.

Another of your pot/kettle replies.

I'n fine because I try to directly reply to everyone instead of playing crappy games of avoidance like some people do all the time.

 

[Ancient Soul]

No, it is not, because I could not care less what other people think of me unless I am truly dishonest or treating others badly, but since I am not........

Is this all you come to this forum to do, criticize other people?

Look, I just proved an intentional deception. That's not a "criticism", just a fact.

 

[CG Didymus]

Some of the greatest minds of all time had faith in God.

Claim made.

Okay, name a few and let's see what they believed about God.

Asking for examples to back your claim.

So I actually find it mostly pointless going over and over the same thing.

To me it is naught about me wriggling out of things, to me it would be me suggesting that you take some initiative and find out those things.

You saying I should go find examples? That's "wiggling".

 

[Trailblazer]

Why are you quoting from what Abdul Baha wrote?

Did he have any mission from Allah?

No, He was not the one with the mission from God. I quoted that to make a specific point.

The good Christians are not in the good books of Bahai Allah. They refuse to accept the Iranian preacher. Bahaollah curses them.

No, Baha'u'llah was not cursing the Christians, He was admonishing the religious leaders who were Christians to recognize Him as the return of Christ.

 

[Trailblazer]

Look, I just proved an intentional deception. That's not a "criticism", just a fact.

I said: No, it is not, because I could not care less what other people think of me unless I am truly dishonest or treating others badly, but since I am not........

There is no deception there.
You just cannot see it for what it is, you being unable to look at yourself but rather constantly looking at others and criticizing them. That's sad but I am not responsible for your character, you are.

Carry on. You only dig your grave deeper.

I wonder why nobody else on this forums sees what you see? Are you All-Knowing and All-Wise?

 

[Trailblazer]

Another of your pot/kettle replies.

I'n fine because I try to directly reply to everyone instead of playing crappy games of avoidance like some people do all the time.

Funny thing is I have been on this forum for three years and nobody but you says that I am playing crappy games of avoidance. All they see is me answering their questions day and night. For anyone with any logical abilities, that says that you are the one with the problem, not me.

 

[CG Didymus]

Baha'u'llah did not say there was life on Mars. It is all in the interpretation and much of scripture is not literal, it is figurative. So when He said that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute, that was not necessarily to be interpreted literally but rather He was trying to convey that most planets have life on them. I'll bet that we read that in Arabic or Persian the word he used would not mean "every."

Well that clears it up... even the Baha'i writings shouldn't be taken literally. For a while there I thought we were going to have to check every planet for creatures to prove Baha'u'llah wrong. Oh, where did that quote come from and who did the translation?

 

[Trailblazer]

However, you do not hesitate to tell other religions that they are faulty! What double-speak!

No, that will not work. That passage is about finding fault with the behavior or the character of other people, it has nothing to do with finding fault with religions.

Besides, that is a straw man because I never called other religions faulty. I only ever said that I do not believe what they believe is true, but they same the same thing about my religion, so there is noting wrong with saying that. I would be dishonest if I said I agree with them when I don't

 

[ppp]

Funny thing is I have been on this forum for three years and nobody but you says that I am playing crappy games of avoidance.

You play games of avoidance with evidence.