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God and Depression
- Thread starter AntEmpire
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PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
Testing for what? It's not as though God would already know the result of any possible test...
mohammed_beiruti
Active Member
Should God Judge you without a test.
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
God shouldn't judge anyone, because the concept is incoherent, but that's the subject of another thread.
mohammed_beiruti
Active Member
who shall judge after the test?
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
Nobody, because the result of the test was already known, and so the test is redundant.
The idea of a sufficiently powerful God testing anyone is nonsensical. Stop pursuing it.
mohammed_beiruti
Active Member
let me tell you what is "sensical" to me
God did not create the heavens and earth just to have fun.
I am sure that God Had created us for purpose, and I am sure there will be a hereafter(judgement day).
God knows the future , but it is not "sensical" to judge us without giving us a chance to pass the test.
what if God created you and told you are in hell, because "if i let live on earth you will cause mischief for humanity", is that what you call "sensical"?.
Qura'an Ch.21 verse 16-17
16 We created not the heaven and the earth and all that is between them in play.
17 If We had wished to find a pastime, We could have found it in Our presence - if We ever did.
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
Serious question: What purpose could that possibly be?
In the (slightly modified) words of Master Yoda: Do or do not; there is no chance.
You admitted it yourself: God knows the future. He knows whether or not you will pass the test, and so actually performing it is completely unnecessary.
mohammed_beiruti
Active Member
The one who created the heavens and earth can resurrect you aftre death .
regardless, facepalm or put your fingers in your ears or put your hands on you mouth.
Primordial Annihilator
Well-Known Member
mohammed_beiruti
Active Member
before I answer you, If you see God by your eyes, and see his power and his kingdom and ask you to obey him would you do that?
God Created us to obey him.
what if you had an objection, what if you said no, if you gave me a chance I would be a good man.
Commoner
Headache
I love you to. :flirt:
Primordial Annihilator
Well-Known Member
Come over here and let me kiss you.....
Commoner
Headache
This is moving too fast for me! :run:
Primordial Annihilator
Well-Known Member
Don't be coy with me....pucker up. :flirt:
The ultimate goal is for us to rebuild the perfect world ourselves. It pretty much how life works. You know the expression easy come easy go?
When we rebuild it ourselves we will appreciate it and not take it for granted.
The point was its not a gods fault but it would be as you said the ones who performed the actions fault. So if someones parents did drugs before they were born and they were born with a genetic deformity because of it. That is not a gods fault it is their parents fault.
However, in christianity the point is not to blame people for their faults but to forgive them for their faults. So any harm your parents or whoever may have caused you should be forgiven by you. You should also correct those mistakes as best you can by not repeating them yourself and teaching others not to repeat them.
AntEmpire
Active Member
And if you couldn't do mental tasks that are simple like getting up to eat, or to roll out of bed not because of something medical but mental? I'm not saying you couldn't but image you had a condition like MS but a mental thing instead of physical.
Also if I were you I would say you and all other MS-ers are faking it as a way to get my tax dollars and have me feel sorry for you.
AntEmpire
Active Member
Well God made it easily is that why his creation was ruined after a very short time in the garden?
As you claim the one who preformed the action of designing this messed up world is god, so the glory should go to him, am I right? If the glory for every flower and act of love is his fault then so too is every messed up thing god did. If he is a just god he would take responsibility instead of blaming the innocent beings he put into action.