God is a person

[waitasec]

Huh? Who limited him to just those emotions?

the faithful of course

 

[Autodidact]

Christians worked to end slavery, get women the right to vote, try to keep alcohol at bay, help others with their mission work, helped to end torture, made peace and friends with those we used to bomb for self-defense, and try to show that homosexuality is immoral, there are your morals.

Christians also worked to preserve slavery, deny women the right to vote, legalize alcohol, promote torture, start wars and make enemies with people who have not attacked us, and further gay rights. Those are also Christian morals.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

the faithful of course

Huh? Care to explain this?

 

[Autodidact]

If you want individual freedom and liberty then move to a country that has freedom of religion and act like a believer, not an Atheist.

Read this sentence over carefully and see if you can spot the contradiction.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Read this sentence over carefully and see if you can spot the contradiction.

I don't know if there's a contradiction, but it's certainly not reasonable.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Doesn't jealousy imply lack?

Maybe intolerance. How does it imply lack?

 

[PolyHedral]

Maybe intolerance. How does it imply lack?

Because why would you be jealous of anyone if you have everything they do?

 

[waitasec]

God admits to that.You're funny.

jealousy is based on fear; lack of control, wouldn't you say?
jealousy is limiting. especially when reverting to violent tendencies in order to manipulate a desired response.
in other words, it's a sign of weakness and insecurity.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Because why would you be jealous of anyone if you have everything they do?

It seems that God's jealousy comes from a place of intolerance of rivalry or unfaithfulness. It would seem the only thing He would lack in this case would be man's servitude not His own incompleteness.

 

[waitasec]

If you want individual freedom and liberty then move to a country that has freedom of religion and act like a believer, not an Atheist.

wow...
:biglaugh:

 

[sandy whitelinger]

jealousy is based on fear; lack of control, wouldn't you say?
jealousy is limiting. especially when reverting to violent tendencies in order to manipulate a desired response.
in other words, it's a sign of weakness and insecurity.

I suppose in a general sense. It could be argued that in this case it it God's desire that you worship Him that inspires His jealousy. His only lack of control in this case is that He allows man the freedom to choose for himself.

 

[PolyHedral]

It seems that God's jealousy comes from a place of intolerance of rivalry or unfaithfulness. It would seem the only thing He would lack in this case would be man's servitude not His own incompleteness.

But why would He desire man's servitude? Labour is worthless, and one-sided faith is hardly "love" of any sort.

 

[waitasec]

I suppose in a general sense. It could be argued that in this case it it God's desire that you worship Him that inspires His jealousy. His only lack of control in this case is that He allows man the freedom to choose for himself.

exactly, lack of control for an all powerful god....



if you love something set it free
if it doesn't come back, hunt it down and kill it...

 

[sandy whitelinger]

But why would He desire man's servitude? Labour is worthless, and one-sided faith is hardly "love" of any sort.

Because He hates sin and it's effects on man and mankind. He offers the only way around sin and wishes for all to come to Him for deliverance.

 

[PolyHedral]

Because He hates sin and it's effects on man and mankind. He offers the only way around sin and wishes for all to come to Him for deliverance.

So why doesn't He simply remove the motivation for sin?

 

[sandy whitelinger]

exactly, lack of control for an all powerful god....



if you love something set it free
if it doesn't come back, hunt it down and kill it...

Nice cliche. I've come to expect this as your most forceful of arguments.

If it doesn't leave and just sits around watching TV, leaves dirty clothes all over the place and expects to be fed then you either gave birth to it or married it.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

So why doesn't He simply remove the motivation for sin?

I don't know. Eventually He will though, in the ressurection, for those who accept Him.

 

[Autodidact]

Man of Faith: It occurred to me that I'm not clear on what you're getting at. Are you saying that if God exists, then He's a person? Or are you saying that God exists, because He's a person?

 

[sandy whitelinger]

So why doesn't He simply remove the motivation for sin?

Perhaps it part of the free will necessary for man to be able to make the choice to love God.

 

[Autodidact]

I don't know. Eventually He will though, in the ressurection, for those who accept Him.

Also, after you die, I'll pay you that money I owe you.