God isn't real. Prove me wrong.

[Epic Beard Man]

No thanks. Plenty of plotholes to explore on the good ol' book o' religion.

Hell, Slaanesh is a god. Xom is a god. Tchernobog is a god, too. They're all gods.

Wonder why we aren't talking about the Flying Spaghetti Monster yet, I think that's an actual religion too.

Christianity is one of three of the Abrahamic faiths. It’s okay try as you may, but you failed when you mentioned christianity.

 

[LuisDantas]

Not a troll. A debate. As the title says.

So! Prove me wrong. I'll reply.

For the purposes of this thread, what would make a God real?

 

[TheAll-Knowing]

That you can't believe God exists is part of the plan, God is in control. You could prove God doesn't exist by changing your mind and believing God is real and in absolute control of all that was, all that is, and all that ever shall be. Prove me wrong...

You said it yourself. I need to believe. It's a belief.

Anyway, God is a dick. A psychopath, almost. So, he made us. He made everything, right. He has absolute control of everything, all that is, and all that shall ever be.

Okay.

So, why would God also give innocent children horrible diseases what makes their eyes rot, their limbs fall off, their face horribly disfigured, their skin bleed through the tiny pores, cancer, painful, agonizing birth defects and diseases. Oh, and about a million more things such as this.

"Oh, yes! Praise the lord! My baby's eyes just fell off and he's throwing up his internal organs! Thank you, God, for giving us humans this!"

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Piggybacking on my question to you, which god....

God? Anything supernatural. Like you imagine gods would be.

Im not familiar with supernatural gods; so, I'll guess based on what I see on RF.

God is a cultural and psychological idea, for lack of better words, made "alive" by interaction, say experience its energy, prayer, meditation, and so forth. Its not an alien experience; so, no god religion has claims on the real god experience. Its seen as supernatural because many people cant explain it. You would need to know their culture, their history, their language, and have a sense of self needing or wanting to have connection to life and gratitude of it, to experience god.

Since it cant be explained by believers, Im not sure exactly what god you speak of. If they cant describe it, then who or what are you talking about?

Real? It exists. Simple. Or has existed. Maybe God died? Or, at least, one of them.

What does that mean? Whats it?

What is god?

Prove? Sorry to be rude here, but since there simply isn't any, this is going to be a hard thing to answer to. The only proof is 'suggestions' or 'points' people can provide. Yeah, there's a bible and all that. But it's more of a story book than anything, rather than a, y'know, basis for a religion. Maybe someone got really creative with a fantasy world of theirs, wrote it, gained a cult following and bam, people think it's real and now there's a religion.

Biblical god?

God exists. The bible just explains its god particular existence, its nature, and so forth. Many religions have their culture that define their gods. You really have to get to know their culture, language, and look beyond proof and experience life and gratitude itself. Open your mind.

Dont know about fantasy, unless you are saying gods believers experiences are figments of their imaginations.

Now, I don't know that. But it's a possibility. There's also a billion other possibilities. And one of them is that a god indeed does exist. ...And to put this into perspective, it's also just as likely that a sheep happened to write the bible by stumbling near ink and paper. And that a time traveler exists and made that book then. Those are *possibilities*, mind you.

Oh. In your OP, you got to put the biblical god. Many of us arent all familiar with the biblical god. Some have not read the bible and others never even been around christianity and judaism to form an opinion.

How would you define the biblical god yourself?

 

[TheAll-Knowing]

For the purposes of this thread, what would make a God real?

I don't know. It's a challenge. Everyone wants to believe that their life has a purpose, that they're created for something. But in reality, we're just animals who happened to grow this way on accident.

I'm trying to see if there's anyone who can change my mind about this, even with facts, proof, whatever. Though, I'd say it's impossible, so I suppose there's never going to be conclusion.

But it's a nice debate nonetheless. I hope nobody is offended, even if the text can be harsh.

 

[TheAll-Knowing]

Piggybacking on my question to you, which god....


Im not familiar with supernatural gods; so, I'll guess based on what I see on RF.

God is a cultural and psychological idea, for lack of better words, made "alive" by interaction, say experience its energy, prayer, meditation, and so forth. Its not an alien experience; so, no god religion has claims on the real god experience. Its seen as supernatural because many people cant explain it. You would need to know their culture, their history, their language, and have a sense of self needing or wanting to have connection to life and gratitude of it, to experience god.

Since it cant be explained by believers, Im not sure exactly what god you speak of. If they cant describe it, then who or what are you talking about?



What does that mean? Whats it?

What is god?



Biblical god?

God exists. The bible just explains its god particular existence, its nature, and so forth. Many religions have their culture that define their gods. You really have to get to know their culture, language, and look beyond proof and experience life and gratitude itself. Open your mind.

Dont know about fantasy, unless you are saying gods believers experiences are figments of their imaginations.



Oh. In your OP, you got to put the biblical god. Many of us arent all familiar with the biblical god. Some have not read the bible and others never even been around christianity and judaism to form an opinion.

How would you define the biblical god yourself?

Hecc. You explained it pretty well. It's a cultural and a psychological thing.


And I don't really know. There's so many gods to keep track of but the one I'm mainly referring to is the one the majority of christians believe in. And even then there's so many variants.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Anyway, God is a dick. A psychopath, almost. So, he made us. He made everything, right. He has absolute control of everything, all that is, and all that shall ever be.

This thread doesnt sound like a serious debate.

Are you going by god of the bible?
God based on how others describe him?
God based on your experience?

They arent the same, unfortunately.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Hecc. You explained it pretty well. It's a cultural and a psychological thing.


And I don't really know. There's so many gods to keep track of but the one I'm mainly referring to is the one the majority of christians believe in. And even then there's so many variants.

Yeah. How do you define the god christians believe in?

Are you going by what christians say? their bible? or your experiences? (some people are angry at god; Im not sure what that means, but I assume they had some personal experiences that would drive that emotion. Believers have experiences of love; so...)

 

[Frog]

No thanks. Plenty of plotholes to explore on the good ol' book o' religion.

Hell, Slaanesh is a god. Xom is a god. Tchernobog is a god, too. They're all gods.

Wonder why we aren't talking about the Flying Spaghetti Monster yet, I think that's an actual religion too.

I find it real strange that a creature would deny its own existence by stating "God does not exist".

 

[TheAll-Knowing]

This thread doesnt sound like a serious debate.

Are you going by god of the bible?
God based on how others describe him?
God based on your experience?

They arent the same, unfortunately.

God of the bible? ...Author of the bible, or the god -from- the bible?

God based on how others describe him, I suppose. I've never had any experiences with any god whatsoever. So it can't be that. Sure, as a kid I was gullible enough to look up into the sky when my grandfather died for a bit of comfort.

Thing is, I never got any. So there goes that down the drain.

 

[sayak83]

Not a troll. A debate. As the title says.

So! Prove me wrong. I'll reply.

God is real.
Prove me wrong.

 

[TheAll-Knowing]

I find it real strange that a creature would deny its own existence by stating "God does not exist".

...What, even?

How do I deny my own existence if I'm not a part of a religious cult?

I exist. I know this. I exist -accidentally- like everyone else does. We're animals. Highly social animals. Are you one of those people who just 'haha, no' at Evolution?

 

[Frog]

You said it yourself. I need to believe. It's a belief.

Anyway, God is a dick. A psychopath, almost. So, he made us. He made everything, right. He has absolute control of everything, all that is, and all that shall ever be.

Okay.

So, why would God also give innocent children horrible diseases what makes their eyes rot, their limbs fall off, their face horribly disfigured, their skin bleed through the tiny pores, cancer, painful, agonizing birth defects and diseases. Oh, and about a million more things such as this.

"Oh, yes! Praise the lord! My baby's eyes just fell off and he's throwing up his internal organs! Thank you, God, for giving us humans this!"

God goes left and goes right but never sideways.

 

[LuisDantas]

I don't know. It's a challenge.

In that case, my personal case is that deciding whether to use a god-concept and whether to believe it to be real as opposed to useful and inspiring is very much an individual call that makes no sense when extrapolated for other people.

Everyone wants to believe that their life has a purpose, that they're created for something. But in reality, we're just animals who happened to grow this way on accident.

"Everyone" are a lot of people. That belief is common enough, but not universal.

I'm trying to see if there's anyone who can change my mind about this, even with facts, proof, whatever. Though, I'd say it's impossible, so I suppose there's never going to be conclusion.

Not me. I don't think that it is an important matter to have a stance about, either.

But it's a nice debate nonetheless. I hope nobody is offended, even if the text can be harsh.

Fair enough.

 

[Frog]

...What, even?

How do I deny my own existence if I'm not a part of a religious cult?

I exist. I know this. I exist -accidentally- like everyone else does. We're animals. Highly social animals. Are you one of those people who just 'haha, no' at Evolution?

Being here means being created. Which means. well i think you already know.

 

[Katzpur]

some say made up nonsense and then believe it. If you did not know you were a reincarnation, then the entire purpose of reincarnation is fruitless.

I don't agree with you very often, but I think you've got a really good point here.

 

[LuisDantas]

I find it real strange that a creature would deny its own existence by stating "God does not exist".

Basic transcendence of verbal paradoxes is all the rage these days among self-proclaimed gods, I hear.

 

[Frog]

I don't agree with you very often, but I think you've got a really good point here.

If you can access your Akashic records in your DNA. In theosophy and anthroposophy, the Akashic records are a compendium of all human events, thoughts, words, emotions, and intent ever to have occurred in the past, present, or future.

 

[Frog]

Basic transcendence of verbal paradoxes is all the rage these days among self-proclaimed gods, I hear.

If you believe we live in a universe than it would be impossible to be proclaimed and proven any different

 

[TheAll-Knowing]

God is real.
Prove me wrong.

I genuinely expected this exact post.

Alright.

What you did just now was a claim. I can't prove you wrong because there's... nothing to 'prove'. Nothing to build on. You just said, "fam. god's real."

That's just arguing for the sake of arguing.