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God Sent Himself To Die On The Cross

Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
People say how could God have sent his son to die on the cross. When you think about it, God sent himself because Jesus is God in the flesh.
 
Quintessence

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't know much about which humans are saying this, but from what I do know about the concept of the Trinity, on the whole that way of interpreting the mythos makes some sense. Father, Son, Holy Spirit and all that - considered to be the same god in some traditions. And self-sacrifice is a common theme and virtue in Christian mythos. Even I remember that from my brief tenure in Sunday school as a kid... haha.
 
PearlSeeker

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
King Phenomenon said:
People say how could God have sent his son to die on the cross. When you think about it, God sent himself because Jesus is God in the flesh.
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Christianity says God (the Father) sent God (the Son) to sacrifice himself to God so that he can forgive us our sins and save us from himself (God's judgement). How can this make sense?

"The idea that God could only forgive our sins by having his son tortured to death as a scapegoat is surely, from an objective point of view, a deeply unpleasant idea. If God wanted to forgive us our sins, why didn't he just forgive them? Why did he have to have his son tortured?" (R. Dawkins)
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
PearlSeeker said:
Christianity says God (the Father) sent God (the Son) to sacrifice himself to God so that he can forgive us our sins and save us from himself (God's judgement). How can this make sense?

"The idea that God could only forgive our sins by having his son tortured to death as a scapegoat is surely, from an objective point of view, a deeply unpleasant idea. If God wanted to forgive us our sins, why didn't he just forgive them? Why did he have to have his son tortured?" (R. Dawkins)
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Was he tortured?;)
 
Sgt. Pepper

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
PearlSeeker said:
Christianity says God (the Father) sent God (the Son) to sacrifice himself to God so that he can forgive us our sins and save us from himself (God's judgement). How can this make sense?
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Some Christians believe that the trinity is substantiated in the Bible, whereas others don't. I see this difference as yet another example of just how divided Christians are on their various interpretations of the Bible. As I previously stated, I believe that the trinity doctrine was copied and adapted from paganism.

First article: Pagan Roots of the Trinity Doctrine

Second article: How Ancient Trinitarian Gods Influenced Adoption of the Trinity

PearlSeeker said:
"The idea that God could only forgive our sins by having his son tortured to death as a scapegoat is surely, from an objective point of view, a deeply unpleasant idea. If God wanted to forgive us our sins, why didn't he just forgive them? Why did he have to have his son tortured?" (R. Dawkins)
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I also like this quote by Richard Dawkins, "The god of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." After reading the Bible numerous times, I believe that he has accurately described God.
 
PearlSeeker

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
King Phenomenon said:
Was he tortured?;)
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Why do you ask? Do you think he was having fun?

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Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Sgt. Pepper said:
Some Christians believe that the trinity is substantiated in the Bible, whereas others don't. I see this difference as yet another example of just how divided Christians are on their various interpretations of the Bible. As I previously stated, I believe that the trinity doctrine was copied and adapted from paganism.

First article: Pagan Roots of the Trinity Doctrine

Second article: How Ancient Trinitarian Gods Influenced Adoption of the Trinity



I also like this quote by Richard Dawkins, "The god of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." After reading the Bible numerous times, I believe that he has accurately described God.
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I hope Dawkins will see the truth one day.
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Sgt. Pepper said:
Some Christians believe that the trinity is substantiated in the Bible, whereas others don't. I see this difference as yet another example of just how divided Christians are on their various interpretations of the Bible. As I previously stated, I believe that the trinity doctrine was copied and adapted from paganism.

First article: Pagan Roots of the Trinity Doctrine

Second article: How Ancient Trinitarian Gods Influenced Adoption of the Trinity



I also like this quote by Richard Dawkins, "The god of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." After reading the Bible numerous times, I believe that he has accurately described God.
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Well, there are over 1.376 billion people baptized in full communion with the Roman Catholic Church so they're not TOO divided. I get that US citizens are used to division of churches but many places are not. Just a reminder.

Also, even Dawkins who you profess to like knew there were differences between the God of the OT and the God of the NT.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
King Phenomenon said:
People say how could God have sent his son to die on the cross. When you think about it, God sent himself because Jesus is God in the flesh.
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When you think about it, God did not send himself because Jesus is not God in the flesh.
God cannot be flesh. The Bible confirms that many times over.
 
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