• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

God talking

paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Unveiled Artist said:
Im asking you about gods voice. You asked to use the Quran (a sacred text) and I said no because Id read it different than you. I rather you explain it in your words.
Click to expand...
G-d is attributive, the word "Voice" or "Converse" is used only for human understanding. Obviously, G-d does not have a mouth or tongue or teeth etc the elements used in human parts of speech. It is a phenomena which is rightly described as "Word" or "Voice" and or "Converse" of G-d. Please
Regards
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
G-d is attributive, the word "Voice" or "Converse" is used only for human understanding. Obviously, G-d does not have a mouth or tongue or teeth etc the elements used in human parts of speech. It is a phenomena which is rightly described as "Word" or "Voice" and or "Converse" of G-d. Please
Regards
Click to expand...

Go a bit deeper. Have you communicated with god before?
 
BilliardsBall

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
Unveiled Artist said:
True. A lot of people do regardless their path in life. Is it the nature of thr successes that distinguishes it from other faiths in your opinion?

Moreso unique in its nature not its source?
Click to expand...

IMO biblical Christianity's distinguishing features include:

* Bible accuracy
* Bible prophecy
* A unique saving gospel (trust Jesus's death and resurrection, not your efforts, to perfect you for Heaven)
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
BilliardsBall said:
IMO biblical Christianity's distinguishing features include:

* Bible accuracy
* Bible prophecy
* A unique saving gospel (trust Jesus's death and resurrection, not your efforts, to perfect you for Heaven)
Click to expand...

Its not biblical accuracy. Its histortical knowledge. People are still trying to validate the bible as fact for years. And it never started with christ.

Is there a specific biblical prophecy that there is scientific and historia records indicating this past event is somehow literally connected with any events today?

The last is personal belief. There are a lot of saviors (not a unique title). Can you connect the logistics of salvation in scripture insofar when anyone reads it they know it is fact regardless where they place their belief?

How is it a saving gospel apart from believers and testimonies? (Cant take your word for it)
 
Last edited:
BilliardsBall

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
Unveiled Artist said:
Its not biblical accuracy. Its histortical knowledge. People are still trying to validate the bible as fact for years. And it never started with christ.

Is there a specific biblical prophecy that there is scientific and historia records indicating this past event is somehow literally connected with any events today?

The last is personal belief. There are a lot of saviors (not a unique title). Can you connect the logistics of salvation in scripture insofar when anyone reads it they know it is fact regardless where they place their belief?

How is it a saving gospel apart from believers and testimonies? (Cant take your word for it)
Click to expand...

You are asking a number of good but very in-depth questions. Let's start with "are there prophecies connected with modern events that we can trace?"

http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/1948PropheciesFulfilled.html
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
BilliardsBall said:
You are asking a number of good but very in-depth questions. Let's start with "are there prophecies connected with modern events that we can trace?"

http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/1948PropheciesFulfilled.html
Click to expand...

Ima read this later. In transition. Are the prophecies only in specific countries or are their prophecies all over the world? The US has been around in 1948 are there prophecies here? Any general ones the general public will know regardless their cultural and religious background?
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
Unveiled Artist said:
Edit.


Can you describe the nature of the projection?



But there would need to be something present when the thoughts go. What is that something that didnt come from yourself?



He will not allow--this is why I wonder...does this view come from the bible? Do you "feel" what god allows as though you are part of gods actions?
Click to expand...

I believe it was a thought that did not come from my mind but entered into it.

I believe that is a thought.

There is Biblical background but that thinking had to be a gift of faith since I had never had that thought before.

I believe you are writing present tense about a past action. I do not go by feelings now nor did I then.

I believe in a sense that nothing happens without God knowing about it and somethings God works behind the scenes to cause to happen but I certainly believed God was answering my prayer by speaking to me
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Muffled said:
I believe it was a thought that did not come from my mind but entered into it.
Click to expand...

What do you mean? Something talked to you like an outside voice reflected as thoughts?

For example, I'm sitting next to my window looking out at a beautiful day. I have my aunts ashes around my neck (urn jewelry) and an small urn in the other room. As I think about her, I hear this voice not coming from me saying something she'd normally say but I wouldnt. She has a sense of humor. I keep her updated (she isnt omnipresent) on things. Regular convo. Real life rather than analogy.

The "voice" came from outside my head and reflected itself as thoughts with her tone. Psychologically, its a part of the grieving process that, depending on how close one is, depends on the "realness" of the voices. The close relationship heightens it.

Same as god. The closer you get to god, the more you can "hear his voice" inside you coming as your thoughts.

Unless you can describe the nature of the voice coming outside of you, the brain does a lot of things for mental survival. Can you explain the nature of this voice apart from your thoughts and connection with how you personally see god?

Does the outside voice tell you that its/hes a creator?

Is the nature of god only a reflection of outside thoughts, what you internalize from the bible, an person talking to you?

If all three, can you explain it individually?
 
BilliardsBall

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
Unveiled Artist said:
Ima read this later. In transition. Are the prophecies only in specific countries or are their prophecies all over the world? The US has been around in 1948 are there prophecies here? Any general ones the general public will know regardless their cultural and religious background?
Click to expand...

Your questions are circumventing the issue: You and I can read modern newspapers or even see TV account to see the Bible is TRUE: http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/1948PropheciesFulfilled.html
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
BilliardsBall said:
Your questions are circumventing the issue: You and I can read modern newspapers or even see TV account to see the Bible is TRUE: http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/1948PropheciesFulfilled.html
Click to expand...

You will need to break this down. I notice youre not too respectful in conversations so instead of debating interpretarions, give me some prophecies we can discuss.

Also, are there prophecies outside of Isreal etc that has been fulfilled?

Has to be historical not supernatural, syncronicities, or strictly cultural. Scripture cant prophecy anything within scripture.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
@BilliardsBall

So far in history, we have some records that jesus lived. We have more records when connected to history not spirituality I think with Paul or Peter. A lot of which are from and in The Church.

Id probably believe the syncronicities but how do they come from god?

I cant just read "Amos did X, it came from god, so this is true"

Youd have to show how god is somehow involved with some of these syncromized events

Also, if they were historical prophecies, Im sure all historians not just believers can see more connection than a train of events. Nichiren Dishonin (A buddhist monk) predicted his death and moreso the future state of monastaries and deteriation of monastaries and the real Dharma. There are so many Buddbist sects. A lot of monastaries are more modern here in the states. Id say the prophecy was fulfilled since made a good guess based on his situation and study. Its not a historic prophecy. Histically (just as the bible and today) are isolated events in spiritual view. I mean, believers can see "into things" that just isnt here. People do it for years.

But you must start with god. If a person does not believe in god, to what way can you discribe these events to where something supetnatural was behind their connection?

Being in the bible doesnt count. Aot of it is historical too not supetnatural. Church helped.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top