God's Name Removed from the Bible

[Desert Snake]

Both. God wrote a small portion directly, and inspired men to record the rest of the Scriptures.

As mentioned previously, Jehovah does not change. ( Malachi 3:6) How inconsistent would it be to have his name recorded 7,000 times, then turn around and have it removed? Why have us pray " Let your Name be sanctified" but then hide that Name? Clearly, Jehovah wants people to know, respect, and use his holy Name.

'Lord' = Jehovah. Jesus is called 'Lord, and G-d. Technically there is no distinguishing differences between these titles, the only difference would be a change in how Bible publishers (using their own judgment), might capitalize or make lower case these titles according to their own whims/beliefs.

 

[rusra02]

The name Jehovah was not on those Tablets.

The name Jehovah does not even appear till 1100 ce. There are questions among religious scholors as to if Witnesses can even consider themselves Christians. Since Christianity is based on worship to God going through Christ which is not what Witnesses do. I believe you are because of the forgtten Arian branch of very early Christianity that was disavowed and whose philosophy I accept. Whether you are or not, you guys do cherry pick the Bible to get your own conclusions.

The history of the New Testament is to cloudy and tainted for me to accept it as the inspired word of God

God's Name was written on those tablets as the four Hebrew consonants YHWH. Jehovah is the anglicized rendering of the Tetragrammaton (YHWH). I am convinced Jws are the only ones who truly do follow the Christ in all things. We accept the Christian Greek Scriptures or New Testament as inspired by Jehovah.

 

[sojourner]

God requires those who worship him to use his Name, not I. (Malachi 3:16, Psalm 96:7,8)

But... apparently not in any specific way. That simply doesn't make sense.
"Thinking" on the LORD'S name" and "ascribing the glory due [God's] name" do not mean "using" or "speaking" God's name. You'll have to do much better than that.

 

[rusra02]

So... if these "false gods" are -- that is, if they exist -- in what sense can they be said to be "false?"

They may exist as idols pthat eople worship, but they are false gods because they have no ability to do good or bad. They are described in Isaiah 46:6,7;"There are those who lavish gold from their purse; They weigh out the silver on the scale. They hire a metalworker, and he makes it into a god. Then they prostrate themselves, yes, they worship it. **They lift it to their shoulders; They carry it and put it in its place, and it just stands there. It does not move from its place. They cry out to it, but it does not answer; It cannot rescue anyone from distress."

 

[sojourner]

Both. God wrote a small portion directly, and inspired men to record the rest of the Scriptures.

Uh huh. And we know this... how, exactly? "Because the bible says so." The bible also says that the sky is a metal dome. but I bet you have some kind of excuse for that, don't you?

Jehovah does not change.

But we do. Therefore, how we approach and deal with God changes.

How inconsistent would it be to have his name recorded 7,000 times, then turn around and have it removed?

How inconsistent is it to have several stories told two or three different ways?

Why have us pray " Let your Name be sanctified" but then hide that Name?

Why curtain off the sanctum sanctorum and not let anyone touch the Ark?

Clearly, Jehovah wants people to know, respect, and use his holy Name.

Clearly, things that are holy are things that are "separated off" -- because that's what "holy" means -- "separate."

 

[sojourner]

They may exist as idols pthat eople worship, but they are false gods because they have no ability to do good or bad.

I see. It's not a god. It's a statue that looks like a god. My point stands. "One, true God" is redundant.

 

[savagewind]

But... apparently not in any specific way. That simply doesn't make sense.
"Thinking" on the LORD'S name" and "ascribing the glory due [God's] name" do not mean "using" or "speaking" God's name. You'll have to do much better than that.

OK! Yes! Yes, yes, yes! Name does not mean the word a person is called by but HOW the person calling upon the name is standing in relation to God. To humble people God's name is magnificent. To proud people God's name means nothing.

 

[rusra02]

'Lord' = Jehovah. Jesus is called 'Lord, and G-d. Technically there is no distinguishing differences between these titles, the only difference would be a change in how Bible publishers (using their own judgment), might capitalize or make lower case these titles according to their own whims/beliefs.

Jesus is not Jehovah. Psalms 110:1 in King James Version says, confusingly, IMO; "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

Translations that use God's proper Name make the meaning clear; American Standard Version Ps 110:1 ; "Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

Obviously, two persons are spoken of here, Jehovah and David's Lord.

 

[rusra02]

Uh huh. And we know this... how, exactly? "Because the bible says so." The bible also says that the sky is a metal dome. but I bet you have some kind of excuse for that, don't you?

But we do. Therefore, how we approach and deal with God changes.

How inconsistent is it to have several stories told two or three different ways?

Why curtain off the sanctum sanctorum and not let anyone touch the Ark?

Clearly, things that are holy are things that are "separated off" -- because that's what "holy" means -- "separate."

Do you have a scripture in mind that says the sky is a metal dome?

 

[Desert Snake]

Jesus is not Jehovah. Psalms 110:1 in King James Version says, confusingly, IMO; "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

Translations that use God's proper Name make the meaning clear; American Standard Version Ps 110:1 ; "Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

Obviously, two persons are spoken of here, Jehovah and David's Lord.

What does the original text use for these titles.

 

[sojourner]

Do you have a scripture in mind that says the sky is a metal dome?

In Genesis, the Hebrew term for "sky" is raqiya, which literally means "a hammered-out bowl." One hammers out a bowl from metal. Hence, the sky is a metal bowl, according to Genesis.

 

[Tabb]

God's Name was written on those tablets as the four Hebrew consonants YHWH. Jehovah is the anglicized rendering of the Tetragrammaton (YHWH). I am convinced Jws are the only ones who truly do follow the Christ in all things. We accept the Christian Greek Scriptures or New Testament as inspired by Jehovah.

So if his name is YHWH why are you anglicizing his name. We don't do that with any other persons name. Besides how can you translate a one of a kind name in the world. Beyonce is Beyonce where ever she goes. I don't mean any disrespect but I never get a satisfactory answer to that question. You guys should be YHWH Witnesses.

 

[Pegg]

So if his name is YHWH why are you anglicizing his name. We don't do that with any other persons name. Besides how can you translate a one of a kind name in the world. Beyonce is Beyonce where ever she goes. I don't mean any disrespect but I never get a satisfactory answer to that question. You guys should be YHWH Witnesses.

Jesus name is Anglicised. In hebrew his name would be Yeshua. But no one objects to calling him Jesus.

Why do you think that is?

 

[rusra02]

So if his name is YHWH why are you anglicizing his name. We don't do that with any other persons name. Besides how can you translate a one of a kind name in the world. Beyonce is Beyonce where ever she goes. I don't mean any disrespect but I never get a satisfactory answer to that question. You guys should be YHWH Witnesses.

Of course many names in English Bibles use English translations of Hebrew names. Jeremiah, Jesus, Joshua, and countless other names are accepted without question. Although these name's exact correct pronunciation in ancient Hebrew cannot be determined today, we know they were not pronounced as is common today.
Yet, the most important Name of the greatest Person, God himself, should remain nameless because his exact ancient Hebrew pronunciation cannot be determined? How utterly ubsurd, IMO; and not supported in the Bible, where God says; “For from the rising of the sun to its setting, my name will be great among the nations." (Malachi 1:11)

 

[rusra02]

In Genesis, the Hebrew term for "sky" is raqiya, which literally means "a hammered-out bowl." One hammers out a bowl from metal. Hence, the sky is a metal bowl, according to Genesis.

I think you are stretching way too far.
"The Hebrew word sha′chaq (sky) is also translated “film of dust,” “cloud,” “cloudy sky”; it is apparently from a root meaning “pound fine.” (2Sa 22:43) Insight Vol. all p.977

 

[Sleeppy]

Jesus name is Anglicised. In hebrew his name would be Yeshua. But no one objects to calling him Jesus.

Why do you think that is?

It's because a large majority didn't/don't even know the Hebrew alternative.. They've been taught and conditioned to accept 'Jesus' instead. Ignorance in both cases.

 

[sojourner]

Jesus name is Anglicised. In hebrew his name would be Yeshua. But no one objects to calling him Jesus.

Why do you think that is?

No it wouldn't. In Hebrew, Jesus' name would be spelled with all consonants, with points to indicate what the vowel sounds would be.

 

[sojourner]

Yet, the most important Name of the greatest Person, God himself, should remain nameless because his exact ancient Hebrew pronunciation cannot be determined?

No. God doesn't "remain nameless." God has a name. We just don't get to pronounce it. Not because the pronunciation "can't be determined," but because we need to maintain that degree of separation, so that God remains holy.

 

[sojourner]

I think you are stretching way too far.
"The Hebrew word sha′chaq (sky) is also translated “film of dust,” “cloud,” “cloudy sky”; it is apparently from a root meaning “pound fine.” (2Sa 22:43) Insight Vol. all p.977

But Genesis says raqiya. Which was my point: the bible says. The bible says something that we know to be untrue. Therefore, "The bible says" cannot be used as a trump card, because the bible says a lot of things.

It's not "stretching it." But to misuse the bible as some overarching paragon of factual truth is "stretching it."

 

[outhouse]

Jesus name is Anglicised. In hebrew his name would be Yeshua.

No it is not anglicised, it was Latinized first.

Isho was the name they used in Aramaic Galilee.

You could yell yeshua pronounced properly and he may not have even turned around to look at you.