Again; If the property were abandoned, nobody would care.
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Governor DeSantis Signs Law Against Squatters
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Just Google "squatters"
For example:
Rise in homeowners vs. squatters incidents prompts action from lawmakers
Property owners across the country are sounding the alarm over a rise in squatters in their homes, and the lack of legal options to rectify the problem.
"Patti Peeples says she was taken by surprise last year when she discovered her unoccupied ..."Just Google "squatters"
For example:
Rise in homeowners vs. squatters incidents prompts action from lawmakers
Property owners across the country are sounding the alarm over a rise in squatters in their homes, and the lack of legal options to rectify the problem.abcnews.go.com
Key word: unoccupied.
You underestimate human greed.
So it's unoccupied; is that supposed to make it okay? Maybe she is in the process of renting it out! If you aren't currently driving your car, does that make it okay for me to steal it?
What's relatively new is the increase in squatting.
It's usually a faux claim to a leasehold estate, but
is sometimes a claim to ownership by sovereign
citizen or Moroccan Empire types. The common
type depends upon cops being unable to
adjudicate occupancy rights, & therefore taking
no action.
You are the one in this conversation trying to justify greedy people taking things that don't belong to them; not me.
You claimed that people were breaking into people's homes and forcing them to live on the streets. This was not her home, it was her investment property, and she certainly was not forced to live on the streets.
As to whether or not what happened was okay ...
Well I will be happy to discuss that with you, but first, are you withdrawing your claim, modifying your claim, or do you intend to provide a source backing up your claim?
hmm?
Ever notice that some people live to
find something to argue over, even
if it's the most peripheral mote?
Many could care, depending upon circumstances....
- Local tax collection authority.
- Heirs.
- An owner interested in un-abandonment.
- Code enforcement authority.
- Neighbors.
I never said it ONLY happens to people living in the house, I never said it NEVER happens to landlords, I'm saying it ALSO happens to those people. I saw an article about a lady that was forced to live in her car because she couldn't afford to get the guy evicted, but I never suggested all victims of squatters were like her. But even if it did happen to a landlord, does that make it right? Again; if you aren't driving your car, does that make it okay for me to steal it if I don't have one?
Local tax collectors are not the ones complaining abouit squatters
If it's abandoned, the Heirs wouldn't notice the squatters
THEN IT IS NO LONGER ABANDONED!!!!!
Code enforcement will go after the owner, not the squatters living there
How do neighbors know they aren't renting?
No, but you did say:
So if that is what you are talking about, go ahead and talk about it. Perhaps even provide an example.
If you don't want to talk about that, that is fine, just say so and we can talk about something else.
I didn't say they are.
But they could care if the squatters are
there long enuf to own it by adverse possession.
Heirs might take decide to take notice.
I gave up responding to each pesky little faux counter.
Suffice to say that eventually, different parties do
care about squatters. It's a thing in my business.
Okay; in the second example below, a woman came back from vacation only to find not only squatters living in her home, but they sold much of her furniture and possessions. Do you find this to be fair?
'Fairly big problem': Squatters invade homes and refuse to leave. How is this legal?
Squatting is not a particularly difficult problem to solve. It simply requires police and prosecutors to enforce existing laws.
www.usatoday.com
@Shadow Wolf....weren't you arguing that there
are no property rights? We need your views in
this thread. And who's that other guy who also
denied them?
are no property rights? We need your views in
this thread. And who's that other guy who also
denied them?
Well done. And if these stories are true, it is wrong and should not happen.Okay; in the second example below, a woman came back from vacation only to find not only squatters living in her home, but they sold much of her furniture and possessions. Do you find this to be fair?
'Fairly big problem': Squatters invade homes and refuse to leave. How is this legal?
Squatting is not a particularly difficult problem to solve. It simply requires police and prosecutors to enforce existing laws.www.usatoday.com
The only things I have said in this thread are, that it is complicated, that there are such thing as squatters rights, and it is not new.
That it is complicated I think has been proven decisively. And I think I have provided evidence to show that squatters right do exist in the law, and have a long history.
Fair enough.
What you described was different than what we call squatters.
Perhaps what you call squatters. But what the law calls squatters, what historians call squatters is, well, …. complicated.
Do you believe the current situation in USA is "complicated"?Perhaps what you call squatters. But what the law calls squatters, what historians call squatters is, well, …. complicated.
In what way?