Greater purposes

[ChristineM]

If its not in everyone, then its not ultimate. And if there isn't thought, then it isn't purpose. Purpose requires intent. A goal. When hydrogen bonds with oxygen, it is not done with purpose.

The definition of ultimate does not require everyone

Thanks for clarifying. I don't share that priority. But if I did, then passing on my genes would be an essential component of having lived a happy life.

I thing slightly differently, your life would be to some degree that bit happier because you had passed on your genes

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

You are here, i am here, we all are here. Be are here because our parent's believed in that purpose. No imagination needed

Well, not everybody needs to believe in it for there to be a human race. Only enough need believe in it.

I choose not to do it, since I have bad genes and are in effect "crazy". So I wouldn't do that to a child.

 

[chinu]

Humans are animals

Why animals don't wear clothes ?

 

[Trailblazer]

So you have experimental data to show you are eternal?

So you can think your way through that is neither experienced in life, has no analogue to compare and is totally unknown.

So you can construct an eternity. Cool, but i rather think you mean imagine

When I said I know in the second way I meant because it makes sense to me that we are eternal and that there is an eternity. It makes no sense to me that this is the only life there is because it would be pointless to have to go through what some of us go through in this life and and then just die. There would be no justice in that and I have to believe in justice, but I guess that is because I believe in God.

 

[viole]

Mother Theresa glorified suffering and withheld pain meds. She was canonized for her work.

My impression is that she loved poverty more than the poor.

ciao

- viole

 

[ppp]

Why animals don't wear clothes ?

Humans are animals.
Humans wear clothes.
Therefore, animals wear clothes.

 

[ChristineM]

Well, not everybody needs to believe in it for there to be a human race. Only enough need believe in it.

I choose not to do it, since I have bad genes and are in effect "crazy". So I wouldn't do that to a child.

I have never said everyone should be of the same opinion, you can choose whatever you want, if effects me and the future of my family not one little bit

 

[ChristineM]

Why animals don't wear clothes ?

What has that to do with the price of fish?

 

[ChristineM]

When I said I know in the second way I meant because it makes sense to me that we are eternal and that there is an eternity. It makes no sense to me that this is the only life there is because it would be pointless to have to go through what some of us go through in this life and and then just die. There would be no justice in that and I have to believe in justice, but I guess that is because I believe in God.

Making personal sense in no way represents evidence.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I have never said everyone should be of the same opinion, you can choose whatever you want, if effects me and the future of my family not one little bit

But you don't just speak of you. Get out of my life. You are not humanity nor I. I get that, you don't seen to get it.
You speak of other human's happiness, but you have no evidence. Just your subjective, individual opinion or rather belief. Stand by that.

 

[Trailblazer]

Making personal sense in no way represents evidence.

I never said it did.
And of course the same applies to what makes sense to you.

 

[ChristineM]

But you don't just speak of you. Get out of my life. You are not humanity nor I. I get that, you don't seen to get it.
You speak of other human's happiness, but you have no evidence. Just your subjective, individual opinion or rather belief. Stand by that.

In this case i speak in general, not necessarily in totality. You are welcome to your own beliefs.

 

[ppp]

I never said it did.

Do you agree that making personal sense in no way represents evidence?

 

[ChristineM]

I never said it did.
And of course the same applies to what makes sense to you.

You said "i know". My argument was that is wrong, it should be "i believe" so far you have written nothing that changes that

I have no problem with being honest and saying "I don't know"

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

In this case i speak in general, not necessarily in totality. You are welcome to your own beliefs.

There is no general as authoritative when it comes to purpose. It is all beliefs and opinions. Or do you have evidence for the fact that being in the majority makes true. Then God do exists. Learn to think and include the variations if you speak about how the world works.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Do you agree that making personal sense in no way represents evidence?

No, because your version of evidence is what makes personal sense to you.

 

[Trailblazer]

Do you agree that making personal sense in no way represents evidence?

I absolutely agree.

 

[ChristineM]

There is no general as authoritative when it comes to purpose. It is all beliefs and opinions. Or do you have evidence for the fact that being in the majority makes true. Then God do exists. Learn to think and include the variations if you speak about how the world works.

I am not going down your twisted back streets. The evidence i have comes from my university psychology course and is available on line if you can be bothered to look. I prefer to accept then rather than some argumentative guy on the internet who refuses to accept definitions he doesn't agree with.

Have a nice evening

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I am not going down your twisted back streets. The evidence i have comes from my university psychology course and is available on line if you can be bothered to look. I prefer to accept then rather than some argumentative guy on the internet who refuses to accept definitions he doesn't agree with.

Have a nice evening

So you subjective agree with defections, but that doesn't matter. I get your double standard. You use the correct definition of happiness, because it makes sense to you.
Are you aware that there is no objective scientific fact of happiness like say gravity, because the one is subjective and the other is objective?

 

[Trailblazer]

You said "i know". My argument was that is wrong, it should be "i believe" so far you have written nothing that changes that

I have no problem with being honest and saying "I don't know"

I would be lying of I said "I don't know" because I do know.
I know in the following sense:

2. Cognitive (Rational)

With cognitive, you know something because you’ve thought your way through it, argued it, or rationalized it.