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Based on the fact you've put the OP in general debates, not NA politics....
I completely agree, and I taught here in the States for 36 years and our oldest daughter has been teaching for 32 years now at a public high school. It's all political nonsense to a very large extent hyped by DeSantis, but it may be backfiring on him because his approval rating has been dropping, which sorta reminds me of the adage "You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time". IMO, he's coming off as a 2-bit phony, and I think many Pubs are starting to see through his charades.
Whether books, which there are problems, games, or other methods - it's the same animal with different colors.
Yes, we always have "the anti-report" to a report.As I pointed out, the findings of the Fox article are based on a "Fox News Digital Analysis,"
And what of the 19-year-old report? What would you like to draw my attention to? Did you read through the entire thing? Do you expect me to? I have to wonder why Fox News is referencing a 19-year-old report. Couldn't they find something more current? Or perhaps that old one best fits their narrative. Sorry, but I can't trust them and you shouldn't either.
Looks like I was right in being skeptical. Here's an article discussing said 1994 Report:
"A report claiming that close to 10 percent of children in public schools—more than 4.5 million—endure sexual abuse or misconduct by school employees has recently touched off a media-fueled panic.
However, “Educator Sexual Misconduct,” by Carol Shakeshaft of Hofstra University, is seriously flawed, both in its methodology and in the way researchers defined sexual abuse and misconduct.
Rather than critically evaluating the report, the media have instead been trumpeting its frightening figures of abuse. Parents deserve better; they deserve the facts.
In the report, Shakeshaft defines “sexual abuse” in an extremely broad manner to include “physical, verbal, or visual” behavior by an educator ranging from sexual intercourse to telling inappropriate jokes. One study cited in the report included sexual comments, gestures or looks in its definition of sexual abuse and asked students if other students had committed such acts toward themselves or each other.
In his preface to the report, Deputy Secretary of Education Eugene Hickock observes that the terms “sexual abuse” and “sexual misconduct” are used interchangeably, which he calls “potentially confusing.” Some data-analysts use loose definitions in order to include differing yet relevant studies within their analysis. This does not appear to be Shakeshaft’s intent.
Although the subtitle of Shakeshaft’s report is “a synthesis of existing literature,” the report is not a meta-analysis. Meta-analysis consists of combining the data provided by multiple sources, all the while being meticulously careful to acknowledge and to adjust for differences in how those sources have collected or defined the data.
For example, they may have studied vastly divergent populations.
Shakeshaft states that, because so few empirical studies in this area exist, meta-analysis is not merited. Instead, she offers a review of “existing literature” which purportedly excludes “discussions ... not based on data.” Which literature does she review?
The use of sources in the report is no less confusing than its definitions. There are nearly 900 citations to news reports from Australia, Britain, Canada and all corners of the U.S., which date from 1989 to 2003. Some citations have little bearing on the report’s focus, e.g., accounts of abuse by priests. Presumably the citations are meant to indicate the prevalence of the claimed sexual abuse. If so, the attempt fails. Several hundred stories stretched over 15 years and three continents do not point to 4.5 million American children being abused today. ..."
No Panic Over School Child Abuse | Wendy McElroy
A report claiming that close to 10 percent of children in public schools--more than 4.5 million--endure sexual abuse or misconduct by school employees has recently touched off a media-fueled panic. However, 'Educator Sexual Misconduct,' by Carol Shakeshaft of Hofstra University, is seriously...www.independent.org
Why are you ignoring one of the main points raised by @SkepticThinker ? As noted, Shakeshaft defined "abuse" so broadly as to include how someone thinks someone else looked at them. And that includes looks from other students.
I found the report to be a rehash of the anti-home school establishment statements shared decades ago and quite outdated.You might want to read this first: Homeschooling vs Public School - Free Essay Example | PapersOwl.com
Also, what about parents who don't have a relatively high educational level themselves?
BTW, homeschooling is a lot like in-breeding, thus the child can come out with a limited slant on many topics since (s)he may not be exposed to anything other than the parent's viewpoints. For example, if the parents are racists, home-schooling would be right up their alley. If one wants then never to look at anther denomination or religion, that's another advantage of homeschooling.
My wife is a by-product of the parochial school system, and even though she's a devout Catholic, she wanted our kids to go to public schools for the sake of diversity minus "grooming" to only consider her religious viewpoints. Remember "grooming", Ken?
Are you saying that if porn is in the school, and not mandated, it's ok?
OOOOHHHHH! Now I get it. Because it is a theater monologue, wrong becomes right. And because you are free to decline, acting out racism and mass murder it is perfectly OK because it is a theater class.
We are talking about US... not England.
Why are you ignoring my main points?
I don't know how you got that out of the report, but whatever.I found the report to be a rehash of the anti-home school establishment statements shared decades ago and quite outdated.
Having 8 grandchildren involved, we have found that there is no such things as inbreeding or not well-adjusted children
There are racist public school attenders so I'm not sure how that applies. Family are family no matter which school one goes to.
Besides, I prefer "grooming" my way than the secular sexist "grooming"
, but I think more and more people in other states can see through this and through him.
I know. But as I said you chose to put the OP in a general thread, not the US politics forum.
The problem with finding a source that one can rely on usually translates into, “one that doesn’t say something contrary to what I believe” -
Homeschool vs. Public School: Making an Informed Decision - Homeschool Adventure
Is homeschooling best for your child? Is public school suitable for some students? Learn the advantages and disadvantages of each from a mom who has done both.homeschooladventure.com
Then you have those sites that support public schools that don’t want to give a good look at homeschooling.
So have fun trying to find one that you can agree with, and that is honest
I'm not about to allow fundamentalists to be the ones to determine what is or isn't "porn". The case of the statue of David shows how that goes.
Wow....thanks for taking me back to my younger days, growing up in a fundamentalist Church, where everything was taken hyper-literally and the "church leaders" seemingly had no capacity for abstract thought and creativity.OOOOHHHHH! Now I get it. Because it is a theater monologue, wrong becomes right. And because you are free to decline, acting out racism and mass murder it is perfectly OK because it is a theater class.
Got it! Very logical and very understandable. Thank you for opening my mind to possibilities.
Another dodge. Quelle surprise.