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There are things that invalidate Wudu' (ablution) called "Hadath". This hadath is minor and major. The minor includes urination, defecation, passing gases, sleeping.... The major includes sexual intercourse or ejaculation during sleep menstrual bleeding and postpartum bleeding. The minor hadath only needs performing Wudu'; washing hands, face, arms..you can check how wudu' is performed in this link: http://islam1.org/how_to_pray/wudu.htmYou guys is this one true?
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 86 :: Hadith 86
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah does not accept prayer of anyone of you if he does Hadath (passes wind) till he performs the ablution (anew)."
You guys is this one true?
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 86 :: Hadith 86
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah does not accept prayer of anyone of you if he does Hadath (passes wind) till he performs the ablution (anew)."
Yeah! it's still verdict....Is this penalty still a verdict of Allah and his apostle?
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 271
Narrated Abu Musa: A man embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism. Mu'adh bin Jabal came and saw the man with Abu Musa. Mu'adh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism." Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down unless you kill him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His Apostle
Yeah! it's still verdict....
coz when a person accept Islam, it means he knows well and accepted it by heart....
Then after promising to be a Muslim, he get away
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What's means????
means he was Hypocryte, and wherever you go in the World, paul! ask any Justice about "What should be the matter with Hypocrytes?" you will get one answer "Give him bitter punishment or Kill him, coz hypocryte is the sign of Transgression over the World"
That's was in behind....
coz if penalty has not executed now in this life will get the religion of Islam as an airport in which people will come and leave and come and leave and so on .Thanks for your honest answer Summia. In fundamentalist Christianity apostasy is very serious too but in this life we simply oppose their teachings and have nothing to do with them.
Why do you think that the penalty has to be executed now, in this life? Why does allah not wait until the day of judgement when the person is going to suffer in hell for his apostasy anyway?
It is in the koran allah the merciful allah the beneficient. I'm not suggesting that you can just go and change the rules "allah and his apostle" have put in place just to please others, but imagine if you had to execute this act of "justice" on someone.. could you do it?
As I said I do appreciate your honest answer and I do understand that allegience to allah comes before any other earthly friendship but I can't comprehend how this and other punishments (amputation of limbs) can actually be carried out even if you do believe them.
I wont goad you on the subject or keep asking about it if you would prefer I didn't, I was simply browsing the hadith when I came across this and wanted to ask someone.
This to me creates problems. Wouldn't it be more glorifying to allah if people were free to leave Islam but chose not to because it is the truth and they have found allah and the way of righteousness.coz if penalty has not executed now in this life will get the religion of Islam as an airport in which people will come and leave and come and leave and so on .
If on the other hand people who depart from Islam must fear for their lives how will the world ever know if a muslim is a muslim because he loves allah and has found the truth or because he is afraid not to?
Yes to call people to faith, but how is the execution of hypocrites doing this? What this actually achieves is keeping people in the faith by fear, leaving a hypocrite to live out his short life would not affect the muslims duty to call people to faith.Islam has its value, coz it is counted among major religions, if everyone waits for judgment to be suffer such Hypocrite in hell then the purpose of Believers die (And that purpose is To call the people towards true path that God Almighty has mentioned in His last revelation, its not changed as a challenging truth)
It is wrong, I completely agree with you but it is better to have people who are muslims because they want to be rather than because they are scared not to be, because then their hearts are not right with their god and he knows this anyhow.But is someone came to accept Islam and then after some days he go away, such is really wrong action, coz religion is not as changing the clothes
Well you know Islam a whole lot better than I do Summia and I respect your right to believe as you do. Someone who leaves Christianity is regarded as a pig that returns to it's filth after it has been washed or a dog that returns to it's vomit to eat it. (They have returned to their previous sinful ways). Amongst the Christian community that person is disgraced and has to live with the lurking fear of a day of a frightful day of judgement and indignation. Do you consider this to be weak?Yeah! And Allah will surely punish that person in hereafter but it dont mean lo leave the Hypocrite free in this life .
And also there is second way to treat the Hypocrite To disgrace him and show all over the world that the man is Hypocrite But Allah Almighty dont wish to disgrace his creature, rather he (The Hypocrite) must die .right!!!!
I agree and all is not sweet in Christianity " through many tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God" "all who live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution" "mortify (put to death) therefore your members (you fleshly desires in your body parts) which are upon the earth". It is a hard life to be a Christian as i'm sure it is to be a muslim.Look Look paul!
Religion dont means only sweetness. Religion means Balanced way coz if religion will be sooooo sweet and only sweet then why religion????
Therefore, Allah almighty not only merciful allah the beneficient but also fierce in punishment.
But if they killed us what lesson do we learn from that?Now, why our parents gets fireced when we disobey them? We cant say that our parents are not merciful, infact they are trying to save our life .
Yes, paul! You are at the right to fear, coz fear gets place in heart when person has less knowledge about someone. Look, if i hav not seen a loin then suddenly someone will tell me "A loin is beast animal" Then fear gets place in my heart about lion and I wil hate lion coz it is a beats animal.This to me creates problems. Wouldn't it be more glorifying to allah if people were free to leave Islam but chose not to because it is the truth and they have found allah and the way of righteousness.
If on the other hand people who depart from Islam must fear for their lives how will the world ever know if a muslim is a muslim because he loves allah and has found the truth or because he is afraid not to?
I have already mentioned, the Hadeeth you narrate was for Hypocrites, coz non Muslims whenever sees benefit in Islam they used to accept and after getting benefit they leave. And i have interperated in my first answer according to Hypocrites. And it is the common sense that "A lion beats who tease"Yes to call people to faith, but how is the execution of hypocrites doing this? What this actually achieves is keeping people in the faith by fear, leaving a hypocrite to live out his short life would not affect the muslims duty to call people to faith.
can be weak or can not be weak depending upon two situations:Well you know Islam a whole lot better than I do Summia and I respect your right to believe as you do. Someone who leaves Christianity is regarded as a pig that returns to it's filth after it has been washed or a dog that returns to it's vomit to eat it. (They have returned to their previous sinful ways). Amongst the Christian community that person is disgraced and has to live with the lurking fear of a day of a frightful day of judgement and indignation. Do you consider this to be weak?
Look, what the example I hav mentioned you not from Muslims side, from God side, that was the response for "why God is firce?as he loves us so much?"But if they killed us what lesson do we learn from that?
How it be glorified paul!This to me creates problems. Wouldn't it be more glorifying to allah if people were free to leave Islam but chose not to because it is the truth and they have found allah and the way of righteousness.
think if someone is leaving after accepting and he comes for Hypocracy, how can he realize the truth and righteousness, if he is already a rolling stone...
i don't feel it's appropriate to interrupt the thread by this discussion,
Paul, start a new thread i f you want to go on with disscussion ,please
Don't lose pual!Sorry Maro, I didn't mean to derail the thread, I thought it was on topic as I was discussing a hadith. But this is perhaps better discussed between Muslims and I have my answers now so i'll bow out of the thread.