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Have I been unfair to God?

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I try to thank and praise God for everything good in my life! I jumped off a three story building, and I can still walk! I thank God every day for that grace to walk, because being confined to a wheel chair is hell!

Ten weeks in a wheel chair was more miserable than I thought it would be. Some have it for life. I woke up with tubes coming out of my throat and couldn't talk, couldn't pee with a full bladder until they surgically removed the scar tissue blocking the urethra, leading to urination of blood clots larger than marbles (total agony), fed through a tube going into my stomach for a while!

But still, all thanks and praise to God, I could have been in a wheelchair the rest of my life like my best friend in high school, who had an injury and became a quad, where he couldn't move anything below his neck!

I thank God every day I haven't been a victim of rape from a male (but lots of other types of abuse and repeated beatings and stabbings however).


I thank God I haven't been bombed or buried under rubble in an earthquake!

Praise God I have received many signs and coincidences that to me were obviously a sign from the other side , and more than coincidence!

But still, almost 35, never had a relationship with a female that was healthy, and the one that I loved more than all others combined , with many signs she was a person of Divine Providence, and still my true love, turned into a total nightmare worse than death. So, I will likely never have a happy marriage!

Every job has been a total disaster!

I live in the ghetto in total poverty and have a stalker who actually shows up at my place and has swung on me before and stolen from me. I invited him into my apartment once and he started masturbating, (so I don't allow homeless people into my apartment anymore unless they are female or have a girlfriend with them.)

I have also been violently mugged (it caused my arm to come out of socket one of the 5 times that happened).

But I live in total poverty by American standards, will likely never pay the fines to get my license back! Every job I have had was a miserable disaster! School is possible with the exception of mathematics, physics, and certain forms of science I guess, but with my criminal history and mental illness factors, not sure if I could be the history/religion/philosophy professor or mental health worker I'd like to be!

So, life simply has been a nightmare, and probably always will be. I can't make it a year without a mental institution or trip to jail it seems! And I pray every day for grace to do so, but stuff keeps happening, that all the effort in the world isn't working!

God simply doesn't show himself to be love! I am not seeing evidence of this at all! I believe God wants all this misery and drama!

Is being a Father who watches children get cancer, be born missing limbs, be born with HIV or raped by HIV positive people, or watching children tortured to death, trafficked to be raped by 20 people a day as someone makes money off it, and offer no help, what a loving Father would do??

Is leaving women so impoverished in so many countries they must resort to prostitution, something a loving Father would do?

Is leaving the world in agony, letting people be burned from head to toe in fiery car crashes, taken to burn units, their scabs scrubbed, and all that painful stuff done to burn victims, and remain silent, offer people so little comfort, the loving thing to do?

Is remaining silent, refusing to speak clear messages to people, leaving people blind and confused, like you aren't there, like you don't care about them, the loving thing to do?

Is letting your chosen people, six million of them be killed in very terrifying painful ways like the Holocaust, or any body die in genocide, the loving thing to do? Is letting so many children become orphaned , or letting so many parents lose their children, and not let them stay in touch from Heaven to earth, the loving thing to do?


I see a God who could ease the world's misery and suffering in countless ways and end confusion, but he insists that confusion and misery is better, because that is what he chooses and insists on! He could give us good just leaders and refuses!

But praise God! He has in many ways been more kind to me than the average person. I give thanks where I see it due! Maybe there is great reward for those whose lives were nothing but pain on earth?

Have I been unfair to God?
 
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The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I would say don't worry about marriage or a relationship right now. Focus on yourself and that's it. You cannot attend to another, until you learn to take care of and love yourself. Don't invite strangers into your home (homeless.or not).

Stick with your meds, and talk with your Dr's and Therapist openly about any breakthrough symptoms, and side effects so that they can be adjusted as needed. Some meds will.stop working altogether even if they have been working for years prior. I'm on my 5th SS/NRI (in 6 years), with a Mood Stabilizer thrown in now.

Right now I don't think it matters whether or not you are or have been fair to God. Only that you are fair to yourself, and have been good (to yourself and others).
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
SpiderMan, who does the Bible say is in control of this world, right now?

God? Or the Devil? Please read Luke 4:5-8.
That is a lame excuse, a bunch of bs for a defense of God's atrocities and cruelties, and a pathetic futile attempt at a scapegoat!

I'm not insulting you, I'm insulting God.

God is omnipotent, all powerful, all knowing, and God lets the Devil have his power, therefore God enables the Devil, God supports and provides for the Devil, God is the reason the Devil has power, it is God's will!

Please quit playing games! Plus, the Bible contradicts itself and you know it!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I would say don't worry about marriage or a relationship right now. Focus on yourself and that's it. You cannot attend to another, until you learn to take care of and love yourself. Don't invite strangers into your home (homeless.or not).

Stick with your meds, and talk with your Dr's and Therapist openly about any breakthrough symptoms, and side effects so that they can be adjusted as needed. Some meds will.stop working altogether even if they have been working for years prior. I'm on my 5th SS/NRI (in 6 years), with a Mood Stabilizer thrown in now.

Right now I don't think it matters whether or not you are or have been fair to God. Only that you are fair to yourself, and have been good (to yourself and others).
Okay fine, but God and a load of Christians, Jews, and Muslims probably disagree with you!
 

Eyes to See

Well-Known Member
That is a lame excuse, a bunch of bs for a defense of God's atrocities and cruelties, and a pathetic futile attempt at a scapegoat!

God is omnipotent, all powerful, all knowing, and God lets the Devil have his power, therefore God enables the Devil, God supports and provides for the Devil, God is the reason the Devil has power, it is God's will!

Please quit playing games! Plus, the Bible contradicts itself and you know it!

Have you ever once tried to pinpoint the blame on who really is responsible for badness? Satan the Devil, and of course wicked humanity who rejected Jehovah's Sovereignty.

I see you constantly on a daily basis on this forum bashing God for everything. And when reasoned with the scriptures by Jehovah's witnesses you deny the scriptures, or close your eyes and ears to ignore the truth. Where do you think that is going to get you? Satan has you so thoroughly and utterly deceived.

It is even as it was written:

"The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one."-1 John 5:19.
 

swanlake

Member
That is a lame excuse, a bunch of bs for a defense of God's atrocities and cruelties, and a pathetic futile attempt at a scapegoat!

I'm not insulting you, I'm insulting God.

God is omnipotent, all powerful, all knowing, and God lets the Devil have his power, therefore God enables the Devil, God supports and provides for the Devil, God is the reason the Devil has power, it is God's will!

Please quit playing games! Plus, the Bible contradicts itself and you know it!

Do you think that there may be a reason why God doesn’t step in and permits bad things to happen?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Have you ever once tried to pinpoint the blame on who really is responsible for badness? Satan the Devil, and of course wicked humanity who rejected Jehovah's Sovereignty.

I see you constantly on a daily basis on this forum bashing God for everything. And when reasoned with the scriptures by Jehovah's witnesses you deny the scriptures, or close your eyes and ears to ignore the truth. Where do you think that is going to get you? Satan has you so thoroughly and utterly deceived.

It is even as it was written:

"The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one."-1 John 5:19.
Jehovah's witnesses are a man made modern Religion , that the church Jesus founded, considers to be heresy! For all I know you could be a servant of Satan!

The first Christians were not Bible Christians. The Bible contradicts itself!

If God is willing to speak up, I'm more than willing to listen.

God told me he wants the Devil in control of earth because drama and war entertains him, while he pretends to be the good guy. I asked, that has consistently been his response!
 

Eyes to See

Well-Known Member
Jehovah's witnesses are a man made modern Religion , that the church Jesus founded, considers to be heresy! For all I know you could be a servant of Satan!

The first Christians were not Bible Christians. The Bible contradicts itself!

If God is willing to speak up, I'm more than willing to listen.

God told me he wants the Devil in control of earth because drama and war entertains him, while he pretends to be the good guy. I asked, that has consistently been his response!

Well it's really easy. A lot of people didn't believe Jesus and believed the lies told about him. He simply stated this:

"The Son of man did come eating and drinking, but people say, ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works.”-Matthew 11:19.

All you have to do is look at the fruitage Jehovah's Witnesses produce. It's not that hard to see they have the truth.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Well it's really easy. A lot of people didn't believe Jesus and believed the lies told about him. He simply stated this:

"The Son of man did come eating and drinking, but people say, ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works.”-Matthew 11:19.

All you have to do is look at the fruitage Jehovah's Witnesses produce. It's not that hard to see they have the truth.
Ridiculous and preposterous!

Jesus Christ founded a Church, and only one Church dates back to Christ!

Jehovah's witnesses have had sexual scandals, corruption, and all sorts of scandals, like every one else.

Righteous deeds and good fruits come from people of every Religion.

Believe me, if I thought the man-made , unremarkable, tiny Jehovah's witness denomination had the truth, I would have joined. I feel certain they do not!
 

Eyes to See

Well-Known Member
Ridiculous and preposterous!

Jesus Christ founded a Church, and only one Church dates back to Christ!

Jehovah's witnesses have had sexual scandals, corruption, and all sorts of scandals, like every one else.

Righteous deeds and good fruits come from people of every Religion.

Believe me, if I thought the man-made , unremarkable, tiny Jehovah's witness denomination had the truth, I would have joined. I feel certain they do not!

No one is forcing you to do anything. What I say is not ridiculous though. And it is very obvious when you look at the facts.

The true religion would be no part of the world. Jehovah's Witnesses do not get involved in politics or war.

The true religion upholds God's name and witnesses about it to the nations. Only Jehovah's Witnesses hold Jehovah's name sacred and witness about his name to all the nations.

The true religion believes the Bible, does not let human tradition or philosophy counter God's word of truth. Jehovah's Witnesses only believe and teach what is found in the Bible.

We can make a very long list like this. And I can tell you not one other religion on earth even meets one of the Bible's criteria for true worship of Jehovah God. And Jehovah's Witnesses meet all of them.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
No one is forcing you to do anything. What I say is not ridiculous though. And it is very obvious when you look at the facts.

The true religion would be no part of the world. Jehovah's Witnesses do not get involved in politics or war.

The true religion upholds God's name and witnesses about it to the nations. Only Jehovah's Witnesses hold Jehovah's name sacred and witness about his name to all the nations.

The true religion believes the Bible, does not let human tradition or philosophy counter God's word of truth. Jehovah's Witnesses only believe and teach what is found in the Bible.

We can make a very long list like this. And I can tell you not one other religion on earth even meets one of the Bible's criteria for true worship of Jehovah God. And Jehovah's Witnesses meet all of them.
Total lies and falsehoods!

The Bible doesn't say to only follow the Bible. The Bible says to listen to the Church.

Jesus created a Church, one Church, with a priesthood, deacons, Bishops, and the Bible says the bread and wine is the body and blood of Christ. Only one Church dates back to the time of Christ!

Do you believe Jesus was God?? The Bible makes it clear he was!
 

Eyes to See

Well-Known Member
Total lies and falsehoods!

The Bible doesn't say to only follow the Bible. The Bible says to listen to the Church.

Jesus created a Church, one Church, with a priesthood, deacons, Bishops, and the Bible says the bread and wine is the body and blood of Christ. Only one Church dates back to the time of Christ!

Do you believe Jesus was God?? The Bible makes it clear he was!

Scripture says:

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,  so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."-2 Timothy 3:16-17.

So, the Bible is complete. It makes the man of God fully competent and completely equipped. So while you called me a liar, as you usually name call and insult me also on a daily, I don't take offense at it. Because it is really Jehovah God and his word, and Jesus Christ you are denying not me.

The Christian congregation how it was in the first century is how it is among Jehovah's Witnesses. There is no class distinction, no laity and clergy. Jesus clearly tells us there was to be no leader among us as the rest of the nations and religions have:

"Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One. Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ. But the greatest one among you must be your minister."-Matthew 23:9-11.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Scripture says:

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,  so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."-2 Timothy 3:16-17.

So, the Bible is complete. It makes the man of God fully competent and completely equipped. So while you called me a liar, as you usually name call and insult me also on a daily, I don't take offense at it. Because it is really Jehovah God and his word, and Jesus Christ you are denying not me.

The Christian congregation how it was in the first century is how it is among Jehovah's Witnesses. There is no class distinction, no laity and clergy. Jesus clearly tells us there was to be no leader among us as the rest of the nations and religions have:

"Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One. Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ. But the greatest one among you must be your minister."-Matthew 23:9-11.
I didn't say you were a liar, but you are propagating false information.

It doesn't say Scripture alone is all that is needed. That would make no sense.

The first Christians were not Bible Christians! There was no Bible or printing press for centuries. For centuries no one even knew what the new testament Canon was!

It means the early Christians were not reading the Bible , save for a select few that were literate who could access some of the few copies of scripture that were available. Please get your facts straight!

Jesus didn't leave the first Christians with a Bible. He left them with a Church, and promised the holy spirit would guide the church!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I said the information is lies . That doesn't mean you are a liar. It does mean you are parroting falsehoods you read or heard!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Jesus himself said only his Father was God.... in fact, “the Only True God”....and Jesus was the one sent by Him. John 17:3.

See John 4:23-24.
People called Jesus lord and worshipped him.

Jesus said he and the father are one, those who see him, have seen the Father!

Scripture says "the word was God, and the word became flesh, and dwelt among us!"
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Scripture says:

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,  so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."-2 Timothy 3:16-17.

So, the Bible is complete. It makes the man of God fully competent and completely equipped. So while you called me a liar, as you usually name call and insult me also on a daily, I don't take offense at it. Because it is really Jehovah God and his word, and Jesus Christ you are denying not me.

The Christian congregation how it was in the first century is how it is among Jehovah's Witnesses. There is no class distinction, no laity and clergy. Jesus clearly tells us there was to be no leader among us as the rest of the nations and religions have:

"Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One. Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ. But the greatest one among you must be your minister."-Matthew 23:9-11.
I don't appreciate the arrogance of you claiming I know the truth and reject it. Just because some Catholic book (the Bible is a Catholic book) that contradicts itself, says something, doesn't mean it is true. God told me he wants the Devil to have control of earth for now!

I see no evidence that the little tiny dinky man made Jehovah witness heresy denomination is true!

I see clear evidence that Jehovah's witnesses are deceptive and misleading!

Jehovah's witness denomination arrogantly claims Christians were living a lie for over 1500 years, making God look like an unreliable shepherd, an incompetent, terrible Father, who cannot be trusted! Jehovah's witnesses Dogma is some of the most depressing miserable message I have ever heard! :(
 

Eyes to See

Well-Known Member
I don't appreciate the arrogance of you claiming I know the truth and reject it. Just because some Catholic book (the Bible is a Catholic book) that contradicts itself, says something, doesn't mean it is true. God told me he wants the Devil to have control of earth for now!

I see no evidence that the little tiny dinky man made Jehovah witness heresy denomination is true!

I see clear evidence that Jehovah's witnesses are deceptive and misleading!

Jehovah's witness denomination arrogantly claims Christians were living a lie for over 1500 years, making God look like an unreliable shepherd, an incompetent, terrible Father, who cannot be trusted! Jehovah's witnesses Dogma is some of the most depressing miserable message I have ever heard! :(

Actually Jesus Christ himself foretold the apostasy and said that the Christian congregation would be overrun with weeds for a long time while he was away, and it wouldn't be until the time of the end when a harvest work would begin to gather true Christian congregation together again.

Jesus said that those who have the truth are a minority on earth. And that few are the ones on the road leading to life or that find it.
 
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