Have YOU ever read CHICK Publications?

[Bishka]

The Buddha is an idol. The tract warns of not accepting Christ as Saviour, of rejecting Him and following Buddha's teachings instead.

I follow Christ and some of the Buddhas teachings how is that idoltrous. They didn't worship Buddha and he isn't an 'idol' so to-speak. Get over your ignorance and actually find out the truth instead of hiding behind your god, Jack Chick.

 

[Bishka]

Well, I read some of the link, did you read mine? At least we are in agreement about Benny Hinn. As for Chick and Schnoebelen, I believe they stand for the Lord, and if they have spoken falsely or innacurrately at any time at all, the Lord will judge them for it. I think they are right about witchcraft and false religions, and right about the Lord Jesus Christ and the Bible.

That's handy, the Lord will judge them...what about now, what about all the lies and slander they've spread, shouldn't they have to account for that now....leaving it up to God in the end is a bit of a cop out. I agree, He will judge them, but they need to apologize in this lifetime.

 

[Bishka]

the cross is a symbol, we do not worship or bow down to it. I don't believe in the crucifix, my Lord is in Heaven, and a picture is just a picture, unless you bow down to it. If you bow down and worship and pray to a cross or picture, then it is idolatry. If it is a symbol, it is just that, a symbol. The Buddha represents Buddhism, which I believe is a false religion, as I am a follower of Christ.

And the Buddhists neither pray or worship Buddha. Joe, how many times do we have to go through this?

 

[d.]

I see your point, although idolatry is also worshipping other Gods but the God of the Bible according to the Bible, so it is still idolatry to me. And you say no monk has ever bowed down to a statue of a Buddha? hmmm....

the buddha is not divine. people bow down in front of a buddha statue in reverence. if buddhists don't worship buddha, how can it be idolatry? buddhism is an atheist religion.

and if one 'monk bowed down to a statue of a buddha', so what?

and do you expect me to believe no one ever bowed down to the 'symbol' of the cross or crucifix in worship or prayer?

 

[MaddLlama]

I will say, I think Jack Chick is right on on most of what He teaches about Jesus and the Bible, and how to get saved, and exposing false religions, cults, and the occult, etc. I am sure he is not infallible, he may be wrong sometimes, he may have his own ideas that I may not go along with, I don't know. But, I am more for Jesus than for Jack. Jack points people to Jesus, and Jesus will never lie, on purpose or accident, and if you think Jesus is a liar, then you are wrong. Jesus said I am the way...nobody comes to the Father but by me. Forget Jack, what are you going to do with Jesus?

But, you're still missing the point that he tries to convert people, and scare people into converting by using lies. Is it ok to lie to people and make them convert for the wrong reasons as long as they pray the sinners prayer? Will people who convert because they're told lies and scared into doing so be real Christians with real faith in your god? Or just scared little pew warmers?
Not only is Chick not infallible, most of what he writes about other religions are just plain wrong. Would you be upset if another religion was going around spreading vicious lies about Christianity in the name of thier god?

 

[MaddLlama]

That's handy, the Lord will judge them...what about now, what about all the lies and slander they've spread, shouldn't they have to account for that now....leaving it up to God in the end is a bit of a cop out. I agree, He will judge them, but they need to apologize in this lifetime.

Exactly, I thought that as Christians you had an obligation to try not to sin, and confess when you do. Seems to me that Chick has no intention of not lying. Willfully sinning over and over again with no remorse isn't exactly good Christian behavior is it? Willfully slandering with no remorse isn't even good moral conduct for a human being, let alone whatever religion you want to claim.

 

[joeboonda]

Oh my......makes us sound like we were horrible people when Joseph Smith came around. Our emphasis was never on Joseph Smith, it's always been on Christ. Yes, Joseph Smith was a great man and a great prophet, but our emphasis has always been on Christ, how many times do we have to say that until you get it?

It was actually saying nice things about Mormons, but, ok. You say Joseph Smith was a great man and prophet, but I disagree, respectfully, I believe he was a false prophet who preached a false Christ and a false plan of salvation. But, I agree to disagree with you.

 

[joeboonda]

I follow Christ and some of the Buddhas teachings how is that idoltrous. They didn't worship Buddha and he isn't an 'idol' so to-speak. Get over your ignorance and actually find out the truth instead of hiding behind your god, Jack Chick.

My God is God Amighty, the Lord Jesus Christ, the ONE true God. I worship the God of the Bible who says I will have NO other Gods before me. The buddhists follow the teachings of Buddha, rejecting a need for salvation through Jesus Christ, that is a false idolatrous religion.

 

[Bishka]

My God is God Amighty, the Lord Jesus Christ, the ONE true God. I worship the God of the Bible who says I will have NO other Gods before me. The buddhists follow the teachings of Buddha, rejecting a need for salvation through Jesus Christ, that is a false idolatrous religion.

Well not need to be rude to them. Let them be, if they want to become Christian they will, preach nicely and maybe they will, maybe they won't. Don't go around calling people cults and false Christs, that really turns people off y'know.

 

[joeboonda]

Well not need to be rude to them. Let them be, if they want to become Christian they will, preach nicely and maybe they will, maybe they won't. Don't go around calling people cults and false Christs, that really turns people off y'know.

Agreed, It is not my intent to be rude, there is enough of that around, I just feel it is extremely important to get the truth of the gospel to people, time is running short for many, and people need to hear the truth even if they don't believe it or if it is contrary to their 'religion' or lack thereof. We have only this short life, and no guarantee that we will see tomorrow, today is the day to tell folks they need Jesus Christ. Jesus paid for all of our sins, and offers salvation as a free gift for trusting in what He did on the cross to save us. Eternal life, its free, but only Jesus paid for our sins and rose again so we may receive it. Eternity is a long time, the time to trust in Christ is now, so I gotta tell people.

 

[d.]

still, if chick claim that buddhists worship or pray to buddha, then he is either wrong but isn't at all interested in checking facts, which in my book is very close to lying, or lying on purpose.

there is of course a very slim chance that he is ignorant of this, and all the other factual errors in his tracts, and would withdraw or change his tracts if someone would just tell him the facts of the matter. i wouldn't bet money on it though.

 

[MaddLlama]

Agreed, It is not my intent to be rude, there is enough of that around,

Personally I think handing out those pathetic excuses for comic books is rude. When I was a waitress many moons ago I used to get those as tips every so often. Rude rude rude.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Joe, I don't think you're quite understanding here about my belief system and how Chick has portrayed it. I've read his tracts over and over again, and all I see is pride, arrogance, stupidity, and sheer hostility on the faces and in the speech of those he considers followers of false religions. Not only does he get the facts wrong about Buddhism, what the requirements are, what the philosophies are, but he portrays all followers of my faith as the complete opposite of what the Buddha taught: loving kindness to ALL sentient beings no matter how they treat us.



It's sloppy publishing and irresponsible IMO to not only portray Buddhists as such, but any religion that doesn't accept Jesus the way you do or the way he does.




I can't speak for anyone else, Joe, but it looks to me that no one in this discussion is sticking it to Christ or is telling you that you are seriously deluded with your belief system. I've read plenty of material that are honest and respectful criticisms of Buddhism (as well as other faiths), but Chick does not approach other religions in that matter. His approach is some serious hitting-below-the-belt. That is the reason why others have issues with his tracts - not because they don't want to hear "the truth", but because of his underlying hostility and misrepresentation.




Peace,
Mystic

 

[joeboonda]

Thanks, Mystic, I can at least see where you are coming from. I am trying to learn how to witness to people about the Lord better myself, without causing offense, although the cross is an offense, the Bible says. And I believe in only the Bible, and only in Jesus as the way of salvation, so that pretty much puts me at odds with everyone. I accepted that a long time ago.

 

[Bishka]

Thanks, Mystic, I can at least see where you are coming from. I am trying to learn how to witness to people about the Lord better myself, without causing offense, although the cross is an offense, the Bible says. And I believe in only the Bible, and only in Jesus as the way of salvation, so that pretty much puts me at odds with everyone. I accepted that a long time ago.

Yet there are other Christians that can spread the gospel with out being offensive, ever try their tactics of love.

 

[MaddLlama]

Thanks, Mystic, I can at least see where you are coming from. I am trying to learn how to witness to people about the Lord better myself, without causing offense, although the cross is an offense, the Bible says. And I believe in only the Bible, and only in Jesus as the way of salvation, so that pretty much puts me at odds with everyone. I accepted that a long time ago.

You still haven't answered my question.

Is lying an effective, good and efficient way to convert people to Christianity?
And, do you think that Jack knows more about other religions than the pracitioners of those religions do?

 

[joeboonda]

You still haven't answered my question.

Is lying an effective, good and efficient way to convert people to Christianity?
And, do you think that Jack knows more about other religions than the pracitioners of those religions do?

Of course lying is not good, and I do not think Jack knows any more about the details of other religions than those who practice them. I still don't believe he is an out and out liar, and He tells folks the only way to get saved, through Jesus Christ. If he is a liar, on purpose, then talk to him about it, see how he sees it the way he does. Like I said before, he is human, if he has some errors, I am sure the Lord will correct him, rebuke him, show him, or take his power and blessing away from his ministry if he does not correct them. Paul wrote of some preachers of the gospel who did it for the wrong reasons, he said that at least the gospel was being preached whether in pretense or in truth. Not that I condone that sort of thing. I don't like it when any preacher has faulty information to back his claims up, they are to study to show themselves approved of God, workmen rightly dividing the Word of truth. I believe Jack is right about Jesus, and I am more concerned with Jesus than Jack. I would be more than happy to defend Jesus, Jack is just a man...

 

[Jaymes]

Of course lying is not good, and I do not think Jack knows any more about the details of other religions than those who practice them.

Then I'm afraid you're wrong. Wiccans don't believe they actively worship Satan and Muslims don't proclaim to worship a "moon god".

 

[Green Gaia]

I believe Jack is right about Jesus, and I am more concerned with Jesus than Jack. I would be more than happy to defend Jesus, Jack is just a man...

Then maybe you and Jack should spend more time talking about Jesus instead of tearing everyone else down and lying about them, which as far as I can recall, was never one of Jesus' teachings.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

I like how all the non-Christian characters tend to be ugly, and the gospel-preaching characters tend to be good-looking. Very effective.