Heaven is a Police State

[viole]

God is in charge
the angels carry swords

and you will show up at the gate.....

expecting freedom?

Those angels are coming to a gun fight with a knife. How ridiculous are they?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Mock Turtle]

And do we too carry weapons? Do we arrive with swords?

Expecting a fencing contest?

 

[sun rise]

I don't accept the frame-of-reference of the OP. I quite like the following because I believe it's true that we "judge" ourselves after we've dropped the physical body

"The Baal Shem Tov taught that the heavenly court has neither the power nor the capacity to judge you for what you have done with the life G‑d gave you upon this earth. So this is what they do:

They show you someone’s life—all the achievements and all the failures, all the right decisions and all the wrongdoings—and then they ask you, “So what should we do with this somebody?”

And you give your verdict. Which they accept.

And then they tell you that this somebody was you. Being now in heaven, you don’t recall a thing.

Of course, those who tend to judge others favorably have a decided advantage.

Better get in the habit now."

Rabbi Tzvi Freeman

 

[Jimmy]

I've been posting for years.....
the peace of heaven is guarded

and so I agree

they don't let everyone in

We all go to heaven

 

[Jimmy]

In my understanding only those who reach enlightenment or salvation will be able to enter in to heaven and in my current understanding heaven is a peaceful dimension

I think we all go to heaven

 

[cataway]

no actually you dont . if you must know you go the other way . then if not for the intervention of the christ you would never get out

 

[Jimmy]

In my imagination and understanding...heaven doesn't exist !

I think most people realize heaven is earth unless they really believe in alternate realms which I think few of them do

 

[syo]

Expecting a fencing contest?

If we are unarmed, then why do angels have swords? Do they feel threatened by us?

 

[Spirit of Light]

I think we all go to heaven

Then we understand it differently but that is normal i would say

 

[Spirit of Light]

I think most people realize heaven is earth unless they really believe in alternate realms which I think few of them do

I am one of those who see heavenly realm as an other dimension then our physical world

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

if it means nothing to you
post as if it doesn't

I thoughts that's what I was doing? Posting to indicate that it means nothing to me. It having no meaning for me, and my remaining silent about it (as you seem to be wanting me to do) are two separate things.

 

[stvdv]

God is in charge

No problem, as God is Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnipresent

the angels carry swords

Swords symbolize "speaking the Truth"

and you will show up at the gate.....

expecting freedom?

The Truth will set you free

 

[Mock Turtle]

If we are unarmed, then why do angels have swords? Do they feel threatened by us?

Not my field of expertise.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

God is in charge
the angels carry swords

Ill pass. I don't like "might is right" and ruling by the swords. Its peace and love or I dont want to be there (what does god need with armed guards, anyways?)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

no actually you dont . if you must know you go the other way . then if not for the intervention of the christ you would never get out

You know this with certainty, how?

 

[1213]

God is in charge
the angels carry swords

and you will show up at the gate.....

expecting freedom?

Only righteous will get in and they want to live according to God’s will freely, because they understand “love your neighbor” is good and right, no sword or force needed.

 

[cataway]

You know this with certainty, how?

because when you are found dead ,a hole is dug into the earth and your dead body it lowered into it . that hole / grave by definition is the Hell mankind fears.
only by the power of God can Jesus resurrect those that are in the graves .

 

[Shadow Wolf]

only by the power of God can Jesus resurrect those that are in the graves .

You know this how?

 

[Thief]

I believe in Hierarchy

we have such on earth
there will be hierarchy in heaven

and it is written....
fear not anyone who would harm your flesh
rather you should fear He who is able to rend the soul

the body fails and becomes dust
it is an assembly and will disassemble

the mind and heart are formed
as spirit
and we know our spirits can fail

look around you

you cannot escape your body now.....try and see
and if you fail to escape your body after your last breath
you follow it into the grave
eternal darkness is physically real

but if you have the will to say....It is finished
and you stand from your dust

God and heaven will come to see your resurrection

your hour of reckoning is pending
your last breath

so I believe

 

[cataway]

You know this how?

its because i have read and studied the bible