Her name was Amber Nicole Thurman ...

[Revoltingest]

Honestly I can't understand how she could afford abortion pills, but couldn't afford a package of Yasminelle.
Hormonal pills.

This really shocks me. We all take hormonal pills... and despite some side effect, we are alive.

I am sorry...but I cannot empathize. Birth control is infinitely much cheaper than abortion pills.

You believe the mother deserved to die?
And that such medical treatment should be denied?

 

[Quintessence]

I read this story yesterday as well.

Just this week I had a student email me that they were needing to be gone for a week from classes for personal reasons. It crossed my mind that she might be having to flee the state to receive medical care. I wonder how many of my students will die? It's not even a matter of if, it's a matter of when. It's a matter of when and how many.

This is why I use very, very strong language condemning these barbaric forced birthers. Why I call it a form of slavery. Why I call it evil. And why, IMO, every single medical practitioners should just do what they need to and ignore these unethical and barbaric laws. What's the state going to do? Lock up all of the doctors for doing their damned jobs? They need to unionize, go on strike, and give these new slave states the big fat middle finger.

 

[Estro Felino]

You believe the mother deserved to die?
And that such medical treatment should be denied?

No. These laws are horrible...and it's Christian fundamentalism.

 

[Revoltingest]

No. These laws are horrible...and it's Christian fundamentalism.

I asked because your post suggested otherwise.

 

[The Hammer]

No. These laws are horrible...and it's Christian fundamentalism.

Oh please. Stop backpedaling your support.

 

[anotherneil]

It sounds like the election consequence in this case is that the legislators supposedly drafted poorly-worded bill that bans abortion with exceptions to saving the mother's life. If that's the case, then I support doing what's necessary to fix the wording in such bills for amending such laws.

The article seems to be trying to imply that the only solution for fixing this problem is to just totally legalize abortion, but actually it's not the only solution.

 

[Revoltingest]

The article seems to be trying to imply that the only solution for fixing this problem is to just totally legalize abortion, but actually it's not the only solution.

It's merely the best solution.

 

[anotherneil]

It's merely the best solution.

For some, perhaps; for others, not so much.

 

[Kenny]

From ProPublica:

In her final hours, Amber Nicole Thurman suffered from a grave infection that her suburban Atlanta hospital was well-equipped to treat.​

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She’d taken abortion pills and encountered a rare complication; she had not expelled all of the fetal tissue from her body. She showed up at Piedmont Henry Hospital in need of a routine procedure to clear it from her uterus, called a dilation and curettage, or D&C.​

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But just that summer, her state had made performing the procedure a felony, with few exceptions. Any doctor who violated the new Georgia law could be prosecuted and face up to a decade in prison.​

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Thurman waited in pain in a hospital bed, worried about what would happen to her 6-year-old son, as doctors monitored her infection spreading, her blood pressure sinking and her organs beginning to fail.​

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It took 20 hours for doctors to finally operate. By then, it was too late.​

Elections have consequences ...

It does have consequences… I agree… and it is heartbreaking to loose a loved one.

But something just isn’t jiving in my understanding. On the site it says, “she had not expelled all of the fetal tissue from her body.” which means the abortion had already taken place.

What part of the law says you can’t perform a procedure to finish expelling the parts that remained in her body?

I have had numerous people that have waited hours due to no emergency beds and other reasons… even our granddaughter, that we suspected was having an appendicitis situation (which can be lethal), had to wait literally hours before being able to get an emergency bed and more hours before she actually was diagnosed and then rushed into the operating room.

So, on the surface, there seems to be a manipulation of the information to push an agenda unless you can show me the law says you can perform a D & C

 

[Estro Felino]

I asked because your post suggested otherwise.

Unfortunately it's a moment in my country where all over the news there's this shocking event: a young woman from a moneyed family buried her babies in the garden of her villa.

So I wonder: don't these girls have the money to buy some Yasminelle (oral contraceptives)?

 

[Estro Felino]

It does have consequences… I agree… and it is heartbreaking to loose a loved on

But something just isn’t jiving in my understanding. On the site it says, “she had not expelled all of the fetal tissue from her body.” which means the abortion had already taken place.

What part of the law says you can’t perform a procedure to finish expelling the parts that remained in her body?

I have had numerous people that have waited hours due to no emergency beds and other reason… even our granddaughter, that we suspected was having an appendicitis situation (which can be lethal), had to wait literally hours before being able to get an emergency bed and more hours before she actually was diagnosed and then rushed into the operating room.

So, on the surface, there seems to be a manipulation of the information to push an agenda unless you can show me the law says you can perform a D & C

Because some women believe that the abortion pill is better than the surgical procedure.
No...it's more risky.

 

[anotherneil]

It does have consequences… I agree… and it is heartbreaking to loose a loved on

But something just isn’t jiving in my understanding. On the site it says, “she had not expelled all of the fetal tissue from her body.” which means the abortion had already taken place.

What part of the law says you can’t perform a procedure to finish expelling the parts that remained in her body?

I have had numerous people that have waited hours due to no emergency beds and other reason… even our granddaughter, that we suspected was having an appendicitis situation (which can be lethal), had to wait literally hours before being able to get an emergency bed and more hours before she actually was diagnosed and then rushed into the operating room.

So, on the surface, there seems to be a manipulation of the information to push an agenda unless you can show me the law says you can perform a D & C

I agree; there are essentially several red flags with this article.

 

[Kenny]

Because some women believe that the abortion pill is better than the surgical procedure.
No...it's more risky.

But that isn’t what the OP is about, if I’m not mistaken.

 

[Estro Felino]

But that isn’t what the OP is about, if I’m not mistaken.

True...but this woman had another child.
How she could have an unwanted pregnancy at her age...is a mystery.

 

[Revoltingest]

For some, perhaps; for others, not so much.

Christians who don't want to get an abortion have the
right to not get one. But they shouldn't be imposing
their religious proscriptions upon others.

 

[Revoltingest]

Unfortunately it's a moment in my country where all over the news there's this shocking event: a young woman from a moneyed family buried her babies in the garden of her villa.

So I wonder: don't these girls have the money to buy some Yasminelle (oral contraceptives)?

US policy shouldn't be based upon
behavior of the worst Italians.

 

[anotherneil]

Christians who don't want to get an abortion have the
right to not get one. But they shouldn't be imposing
their religious proscriptions upon others.

I agree, and I myself am not religious. I don't hold my position on abortion based on religion.

To me the issue is no different from murder or stealing; murder and stealing are considered wrong by religion, but that's not why I hold my positions on murder and stealing.

 

[Kenny]

Christians who don't want to get an abortion have the
right to not get one. But they shouldn't be imposing
their religious proscriptions upon others.

Every law imposes a belief system on someone else’s belief system. Unless you believe that we shouldn’t have laws.

 

[Heyo]

I have already said that in the long run the laws must change in Georgia.
But in the short run a little bit of sacrifice is needed.

 

[Estro Felino]

US policy shouldn't be based upon
behavior of the worst Italian

By sacrifice I meant abstinence from sex.