"Her penis" - not at all Orwellian - argh

[McBell]

Of course not! But you seemed bent on defending the "her penis" utterance anyway.

I did?
When?
Post number or apologize.

I was hoping, based on the OP, that this thread was about how the use of the term "her penis" triggers you.

 

[icehorse]

We both know that the article in your OP is just your excuse to rail about trans people in general.

Okay, one of the first rules of actual debates and discussions is to avoid strawman arguments. You're not off to a good start. Do you think that spouting strawman arguments is somehow a good look? That it somehow endears you to anyone thoughtful?

I'm responding to a thread where, when confronted with a news story about a trial for indecent exposure, your problem wasn't the crime; your problem was with the fact that officers of the court used the phrase "her penis."

That really was NOT the point of the article. As an act of good faith, I'll tell you that the POINT of the article is that many mainsteam journalists are now routinely communicating the phrase "her penis". The exhibitionist in question was just the first example of many provided in the article.

It also happens that the title of the thread is not about the perp but about the phrase.

 

[icehorse]

I did?
When?
Post number or apologize.

I was hoping, based on the OP, that this thread was about how the use of the term "her penis" triggers you.

Do you think the phrase is a useful one to use in journalism?

What concerns me (I promise I'm not triggered ), is the normalizing of such fundamental lies in society. And if you care about maintaining a civil society you also ought to be concerned when we're meant to accept that 2 + 2 = 5 or that "she" has a penis.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

That really was NOT the point of the article.

I was talking about your original post: just a link and you complaining about the phrase "her penis."

As an act of good faith, I'll tell you that the POINT of the article is that many mainsteam journalists are now routinely communicating the phrase "her penis".

Right: it was that use of language that got you all worked up.

The exhibitionist in question was just the first example of many provided in the article.

It also happens that the title of the thread is not about the perp but about the phrase.

As I said.

 

[McBell]

Do you think the phrase is a useful one to use in journalism?

What concerns me (I promise I'm not triggered ), is the normalizing of such fundamental lies in society. And if you care about maintaining a civil society you also ought to be concerned when we're meant to accept that 2 + 2 = 5 or that "she" has a penis.

the phrase is in keeping up with the cultural and political "correctness" of the time and location.
I seriously doubt they gave a single thought about accuracy of the phrase.

Now given in the medical and biological worlds the accuracy of the term is still being debated...

 

[Revoltingest]

Ugh....once again there is little to no common ground.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Do you think the phrase is a useful one to use in journalism?

What concerns me (I promise I'm not triggered ), is the normalizing of such fundamental lies in society. And if you care about maintaining a civil society you also ought to be concerned when we're meant to accept that 2 + 2 = 5 or that "she" has a penis.

Sounds like you've decided that your prejudices are authoritative for everyone else.

BTW: what's with your beef with trans women? Did your wife run off with a trans woman or sonething?

 

[Tamino]

Is the problem in the possessive pronoun "her"?
Why shouldn't a female own a penis? Whether that penis is attached to her husband's body, her own body, or made form silicone... I honestly don't care as long as she treats her possession responsibly.

 

[Father Heathen]

For someone who hates girl penis, you spend an awful lot of time thinking about it, @icehorse

 

[icehorse]

Sounds like you've decided that your prejudices are authoritative for everyone else.

I'm prejudiced against lying. 2 + 2 does not equal 5, and women do not have penises.

BTW: what's with your beef with trans women? Did your wife run off with a trans woman or sonething?

Another strawman, you gotta up your game.

Anyway, I have no beef with trans women. I have a beef with the phrase "a trans woman is a woman".

I have a beef with normalizing such fundamental lies.

 

[icehorse]

For someone who hates girl penis, you spend an awful lot of time thinking about it, @icehorse

I worry about the promulgation and normalization of fundamental lies. Don't you?

 

[Treasure Hunter]

I'm sorry, "her penis" is a lie. It's not nuanced or complex, it's a lie.

This article starts by relating one incident, but then refers to many more:

‘Her penis’ – the most Orwellian phrase of our age

It’s chaos. It’s a question of “Do we want to flood the social world with chaos?” because there are a segment of people who do want that and not for the sake of generative production.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I'm prejudiced against lying. 2 + 2 does not equal 5, and women do not have penises.

Trans women do.

Another strawman, you gotta up your game.

A bit quick to cry "strawman," bub. Just trying to figure out where the hate is coming from.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

It’s chaos. It’s a question of “Do we want to flood the social world with chaos?” because there are a segment of people who do want that and not for the sake of generative production.

Continuing, how does chaos feel to a child? Are you sure this should be irrelevant, those of you defending ideas like “her penis”?

 

[Father Heathen]

I worry about the promulgation and normalization of fundamental lies. Don't you?

Lol nope.

 

[icehorse]

Lol nope.

That clears up a lot. Thanks for your honesty, I really have nothing to say to you, except I guess I wish you well when mad max becomes a reality.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Presumably the article writer has not read the book.

Animal Farm?

 

[Soandso]

Trans women do.

Hence the prejudice against trans women

 

[Father Heathen]

That clears up a lot. Thanks for your honesty, I really have nothing to say to you, except I guess I wish you well when mad max becomes a reality.

Sounds like a fun-filled adventure. Can't wait.

 

[Secret Chief]

Animal Farm?

I was presuming 1984?