"Her penis" - not at all Orwellian - argh

[Father Heathen]

I just explicitly said when it comes to introducing chaos into the social world, especially in environments where children are like schools.

Children are not blank slates and gender is a core aspect of the social world. I don’t want to overstate the amount of chaos being introduced to children through trans language, but it’s definitely happening.

...that's it? How vague and nonsensical.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Continuing, how does chaos feel to a child?

Said like someone who hasn't given a moment's thought to a trans or non-binary child trying to navigate the world while surrounded by intolerance instead of kindness.

 

[John53]

The author seems to be obsessed with the term "her penis".

It's upsetting if hers is bigger than yours.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

When the choice comes down to anti-trans or anti-child, I’m choosing anti-trans without remorse.

No, you're choosing both.

 

[Father Heathen]

The author seems to be obsessed with the term "her penis".

I bet it triggers a Povlovian response.

 

[Secret Chief]

What a repetitive train wreck this thread is.
I'd participate, but it's just kicking a guy
when he's already down. Such punishment
doesn't change anyone for the better.

That isn't the purpose of punishment. Ok, I'll shut up.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

No, you're choosing both.

In your reality values never conflict so you always get to be on the side of what’s good. How convenient.

 

[Revoltingest]

That isn't the purpose of punishment. Ok, I'll shut up.

Don't get me wrong.
I don't mind others doing it.
This is just my personal view.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

In your reality values never conflict so you always get to be on the side of what’s good. How convenient.

Not always, but I'm pretty certain that the side of this debate that ends up with a lot of dead kids is in the wrong.

There isn't really any nuance on this issue: acceptance of trans kids for who they are saves lives. Intolerance costs lives.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Not always, but I'm pretty certain that the side of this debate that ends up with a lot of dead kids is in the wrong.

There isn't really any nuance on this issue: acceptance of trans kids for who they are saves lives. Intolerance costs lives.

Gender affirmation doesn’t cure suicidal ideation. Trans youth are still killing themselves post GAC at above avg rates. This is unacceptable. Like I said in the other thread, I will compete against GAC with a better solution for free.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Gender affirmation doesn’t cure suicidal ideation. Trans youth are still killing themselves post GAC at above avg rates.

Not surprising, since trans people still have to deal with people like you.

This is unacceptable.

I agree. Do better.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Not surprising, since trans people still have to deal with people like you.

Yup.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm sorry, "her penis" is a lie. It's not nuanced or complex, it's a lie.

This article starts by relating one incident, but then refers to many more:

‘Her penis’ – the most Orwellian phrase of our age

Thanks for proving RWers, Cons, Reps and such don't actually know these Orwellian terms they like to use.
You know what is Orwellian? Evangelical Christianity.

 

[icehorse]

Trans women do.

Some trans women have penises, some do not. But none of them are women, they are trans women.

 

[icehorse]

A bit quick to cry "strawman," bub.

Every time you put words in my mouth you're strawmanning me - bub.

Really? Is that the best you can do? You must not have an actual argument

 

[icehorse]

the phrase is in keeping up with the cultural and political "correctness" of the time and location.
I seriously doubt they gave a single thought about accuracy of the phrase.

Don't underestimate the post-modern, woke, anti-intellectuals, they are nothing if not doggedly persistent.

Now given in the medical and biological worlds the accuracy of the term is still being debated...

Only the sellouts in biology are debating this. This is simple biology. And don't let the existence of a handful of intersex individuals factor in. Intersex is a deformity, it does not undo biological categorization schemes.

 

[icehorse]

Hence the prejudice against trans women

Not from me. I'm against misogyny and homophobia, things that are rampant in the trans activist community.

 

[icehorse]

Thanks for proving RWers, Cons, Reps and such don't actually know these Orwellian terms they like to use.
You know what is Orwellian? Evangelical Christianity.

You know what, I might agree with you concerning the Evangelicals! But so what?

 

[icehorse]

To be honest me too. I just get tired of these anti trans thread and thought some humor would help.

This is not anti-trans, it's anti-trans activist, can you really not make that distinction?

 

[icehorse]

You are feeling bothered by someone else's pronoun usage... I hope you realize that siding with this article instantly gets you into the anti-trans crowd.

Well, when it allows male rapists into women's prisons, yes I'm bothered.

I'm going to be generous and think that you simply haven't thought through how misogynistic and homophobic the trans activists that you're siding with really are.