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Hezbollah Chief Nasrallah Killed in IDF Strike

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You completely ignore the Palestinian Charter that calls for the complete destruction of Israel.
You give too much weight to words in a charter.
You ignore Israel's long deadly brutality as the
real cause.
You still require significant education on this specific point.
Religious fanaticism is the mind killer.
Unlike so many believers, I've no need to see Muslims
as unthinking "animals" who cannot be reasoned with.
They've no less humanity & rights than Jews.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And in the meantime have another terrorist attack? They needed to be immediately be hunted.
They weren't hunting. Israel launched a ton of bombs and hoped to get lucky. Plus bombing where you tell people they'll be safe and targeting aid workers isn't hunting terrorists but is itself terrorism amd acts building the case of genocide against Netanyahu. And, just watch, it's going to get more Israelis killed.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
They weren't hunting. Israel launched a ton of bombs and hoped to get lucky. Plus bombing where you tell people they'll be safe and targeting aid workers isn't hunting terrorists but is itself terrorism amd acts building the case of genocide against Netanyahu. And, just watch, it's going to get more Israelis killed.
Ok
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
It’s how I spell weeding out terrorists
People like Trump and Netanyahu deem people terrorists, yet they themselves have indictments
hanging over their heads for fraud.

If such people are in positions of power, it wreaks havoc .. as we see. :(

..and no .. I'm not saying anything about Biden .. because as far as I'm aware, he has done
nothing wrong.
Right .. he supports Israel .. which US govt. doesn't, particularly these days.
In any case, I don't believe the decision to threaten Israel with limited support lies with him.
He is a figurehead .. much like the UK monarch, imo.

Some monarchs/figureheads have more power than others.
i.e. greater influence
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
because apprentally it's war between "the Chosen people(evils)" VS "The Chosen human animals".
We must be careful to not lump the "the Chosen human" (a phrase I hear way more frequently from those who aren't Jewish, especially Christians and Muslims)/Jewish people and Israelis with Netanyahu's ethnonationalism. Indeed many Jews are against what Netanyahu is doing, and insist it not be done in their name.
Likewise, we must refrain from lumping the Palestinians in with Hamas. Many Palestinians aren't even Gazan (some are even Israelis) and of those who are most did not vote for Hamas. Much like the common Israeli, the common Gaza Palestinian is simply caught in the throws of violence and war between Israel and Hamas.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
We must be careful to not lump the "the Chosen human" (a phrase I hear way more frequently from those who aren't Jewish, especially Christians and Muslims)/Jewish people and Israelis with Netanyahu's ethnonationalism. Indeed many Jews are against what Netanyahu is doing, and insist it not be done in their name.
Likewise, we must refrain from lumping the Palestinians in with Hamas. Many Palestinians aren't even Gazan (some are even Israelis) and of those who are most did not vote for Hamas. Much like the common Israeli, the common Gaza Palestinian is simply caught in the throws of violence and war between Israel and Hamas.

For years, Netanyahu backed Qatari transfers of hundreds of millions of dollars to Gaza, in the hope that it would pacify Gaza, turn Hamas into an effective counterweight to the Palestinian Authority and prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. In 2019, Netanyahu said at a private Likud party meeting, "Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy — to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank." Often, cash was delivered in suitcases by a Qatari official who was escorted by Israeli intelligence officers. According to the New York Times, Netanyahu continued backing the payments in response to Qatari questions as late as September 2023.
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On July 24, 2024, Netanyahu addressed another joint session of the United States Congress, amidst widespread protest, to solicit support for the Israel-Hamas war. He called protesters "useful idiots" and pledged a "total victory" in Gaza.
On July 24, he met with 2024 Republican nominee for president Donald Trump in Florida at his Mar-a-Lago residence where he criticized presumptive Democratic nominee for President Kamala Harris for vowing that she "will not be silent" about atrocities in Gaza.
Benjamin_Netanyahu - Wikipedia
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
For years, Netanyahu backed Qatari transfers of hundreds of millions of dollars to Gaza, in the hope that it would pacify Gaza, turn Hamas into an effective counterweight to the Palestinian Authority and prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. In 2019, Netanyahu said at a private Likud party meeting, "Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy — to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank." Often, cash was delivered in suitcases by a Qatari official who was escorted by Israeli intelligence officers. According to the New York Times, Netanyahu continued backing the payments in response to Qatari questions as late as September 2023.
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On July 24, 2024, Netanyahu addressed another joint session of the United States Congress, amidst widespread protest, to solicit support for the Israel-Hamas war. He called protesters "useful idiots" and pledged a "total victory" in Gaza.
On July 24, he met with 2024 Republican nominee for president Donald Trump in Florida at his Mar-a-Lago residence where he criticized presumptive Democratic nominee for President Kamala Harris for vowing that she "will not be silent" about atrocities in Gaza.
Benjamin_Netanyahu - Wikipedia
And what I don't get, Netanyahu is old enough to have seen what he's trying to do (or at least claiming to do when addressing the general public) fail multiple times in multiple places in his own area of the world.
What makes him think he can succeed when nations with vastly more resources to throw into such a war could not?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
They weren't hunting. Israel launched a ton of bombs and hoped to get lucky. Plus bombing where you tell people they'll be safe and targeting aid workers isn't hunting terrorists but is itself terrorism amd acts building the case of genocide against Netanyahu. And, just watch, it's going to get more Israelis killed.
Targeting aid workers? That just plain nuts all around.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I remember when the US killed bin Laden and celebrations erupted, and when it tried to keep the Taliban out of power in Afghanistan. I have also read about how it tried to destroy North Vietnamese guerrillas.

... then ISIS basically became the new al-Qaeda, the Taliban returned to power as soon as the US withdrew from Afghanistan, and the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars across two wars ended up being for essentially nothing. North Vietnam also eventually took over Saigon, and no amount of Agent Orange used in the war managed to prevent that.

Trying to solve sociopolitical problems through blunt military force is often doomed to abject failure. The Israeli government is contributing to further radicalization with its current actions and refusing to address the core sociopolitical issues that are still fueling the conflict after decades of violence. Nasrallah was a war criminal and mass murderer (many Syrians have celebrated his demise because of the atrocities Hezbollah committed in Syria, for example), but Hezbollah and Iran will just replace him with another extremist. The underlying causes of the conflict remain unresolved.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
We must be careful to not lump the "the Chosen human" (a phrase I hear way more frequently from those who aren't Jewish, especially Christians and Muslims)/Jewish people and Israelis with Netanyahu's ethnonationalism. Indeed many Jews are against what Netanyahu is doing, and insist it not be done in their name.
Likewise, we must refrain from lumping the Palestinians in with Hamas. Many Palestinians aren't even Gazan (some are even Israelis) and of those who are most did not vote for Hamas. Much like the common Israeli, the common Gaza Palestinian is simply caught in the throws of violence and war between Israel and Hamas.
I am convinced that the Western world is biased and still had racist fundamental position in matter Israelis lives not equal to Palestinian or Lebanese or Yemen.
Israel regime already given the total right to Palestinians to fight them.
Because israel occupated the West Bank and still locked Gaza from out side.
No one accept live under occupation especially if this occupation is racist and injustice and threaten top Muslim scared places.

The fact that violence/resist of Palestinians is just the result of Israel racist regime, is true.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
Bad news for humanity ,despite the zionist media get influence on Western media, that's don't change the fact that Israel regime is most dangerous regime on human being .

because apprentally it's war between "the Chosen people(evils)" VS "The Chosen human animals".

Bassem Youssef
x.com

Yesterday Palestine , today Lebanon tomorrow the whole Middle East and after tomorrow the whole planet . Because Israel needs to be safe even if the whole world is destroyed.


Why does God allow Jews to defeat Muslims?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
No, the majority of countries on the planet voted in favor of the Zionist entity ending its illegal occupation of Palestinian land and it wasn't even close:

"Israel" and its allies are pariah states. At least half of the delegates walked out on the genocidal terrorist Netanyahu's unhinged and offensive address of lies to the General Assembly yesterday. Afterwards, many of them denounced his garbage in their addresses.
It's obvious that they cannot bring themselves to call out anti-Semitism and condemn it. Even though I really strongly dislike Bibi, his speech was spot on as most of the delegates left even before he began. When 2/3 of the resolutions dealt with Gaza Lebanon, while basically giving Hamas and Hezbollah a free pass, how can any objective person justify that and them. Ah, but the Israel haters sure do.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Bad news for humanity ,despite the zionist media get influence on Western media, that's don't change the fact that Israel regime is most dangerous regime on human being .

because apprentally it's war between "the Chosen people(evils)" VS "The Chosen human animals".

Bassem Youssef
x.com

Yesterday Palestine , today Lebanon tomorrow the whole Middle East and after tomorrow the whole planet . Because Israel needs to be safe even if the whole world is destroyed.
Obviously, you conveniently forgot what happened to over 1000 innocent civilians at the hands of your beloved Hamas.
 
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