Historical Accuracy in Scripture

[Eli G]

Do you want to talk about ambiguous generalities, or about any specific biblical topic?

Just let me know ... and stop "chanting the doctrine" like someone else said... it's boring.

Good night.

 

[Windwalker]

Do you want to talk about ambiguous generalities, or about any specific biblical topic?

Just let me know ... and stop "chanting the doctrine" like someone else said... it's boring.

Good night.

Apparently you are not interested in anything but being right. Makes sense to me. I'm sure that doesn't get you very far in life.

 

[blü 2]

No words in any book ever "taught" someone to kill themselves or others. All the words can ever do is give clarity and validity to ideas that people already hold. And that goes for all the good ideas as well as the bad, which you seem to want to focus on exclusively.

Which is why it doesn't matter in the least whether the stories and songs and poems and parables in scripture are historically accurate or not. Because that was never why anyone read them, and it's not why anyone reads them, now. And your objection to their "teaching" is misplaced. They aren't "teaching" anyone anything they don't already know, or want to believe is do. That isn't how mythical texts work.

I don't think the success of the Zionist movement, which began in the 19th century, in obtaining the modern state of Israel from its British owners, and the rarely mentioned dispossession of the Muslim landowners that followed, quite fits with your thesis.

 

[Audie]

Isn't that what you've been doing all along?

So cute, playing "I'm rubber, and you are glue"

And after you just got through literally
reciting doctrime word for word.

That religion stuff doesn't help much with
self knowledge, does it?

 

[Audie]

Apparently you are not interested in anything but being right. Makes sense to me. I'm sure that doesn't get you very far in life.

Close, just flip it 180. No evident interest at all
in being correct

 

[Eli G]

So cute ...

Thank you
LOL

 

[Audie]

I don't think the success of the Zionist movement, which began in the 19th century, in obtaining the modern state of Israel from its British owners, and the rarely mentioned dispossession of the Muslim landowners that followed, quite fits with your thesis.

Not zactlty British "owners".

 

[Eli G]

I don't think the success of the Zionist movement, which began in the 19th century, in obtaining the modern state of Israel from its British owners, and the rarely mentioned dispossession of the Muslim landowners that followed, quite fits with your thesis.

Too many modern Jewish realities depend on Scriptures' historicity.
Trying to show the contrary is just fake-Judaism.

 

[Audie]

Too many modern Jewish realities depend on Scriptures' historicity.
Trying to show the contrary is just fake-Judaism.

This here "God" sure did a bang up job
of delivering a message. Don't you think ?

 

[Eli G]

Aren't you, indoctrinated atheists, trying to deliver your own messages?
You are just simple mortals.

 

[blü 2]

Not zactlty British "owners".

Still, it saves a lot of words.

 

[blü 2]

Too many modern Jewish realities depend on Scriptures' historicity.
Trying to show the contrary is just fake-Judaism.

Such ideas were a big part of the Zionist push; and of course right-wing politics have never been far away in Israeli politics, The right in particular have long found it internationally convenient to equate opposition to their policies with antisemitism.

 

[Valjean]

There are a lot of factors that prove the Bible is the word of God. You just don't want to see them.

But we do want to see them. Every philosopher, scientist and religious in the world would want to see them. Hundreds of thousands have been trying to prove this for two millennia, and have not succeeded. A valid proof would make headlines everywhere.

So what have you discovered? Please, lay out your apology.

All dialogue with indoctrinated people is useless, and irrational atheists are already indoctrinated.

These claims you'll have to explain.
Atheism is based on rationality. It's pure reason and logic. It's the faithful who believe in things unevidenced.
Deferring belief in something unevidenced is entirely rational.

As for indoctrination, we're quite the opposite. We're blank slates; no theological beliefs at all, indoctrinated or otherwise. We're born so, and either remain so or return to our original, unindoctrinated baseline.

So what falsehoods have we of no beliefs been indoctrinated with?

 

[lukethethird]

There are a lot of factors that prove the Bible is the word of God. You just don't want to see them.

But evidently if you don't even believe God exists, what can I show you to prove He got any word at all .

All dialogue with indoctrinated people is useless, and irrational atheists are already indoctrinated.

You can't even provide one factor that proves The Bible is the word of God, not one.
You can't show anything to prove God or you would have shown us.
You are the one making the outrageous claims without any support so it is pretty ironic that you blame atheists for your shortcomings.

 

[RestlessSoul]

I don't think the success of the Zionist movement, which began in the 19th century, in obtaining the modern state of Israel from its British owners, and the rarely mentioned dispossession of the Muslim landowners that followed, quite fits with your thesis.

British owners?

 

[RestlessSoul]

Still, it saves a lot of words.

It suggests an ignorance of history.

 

[blü 2]

It suggests an ignorance of history.

Into each rain some life must fall, or however that goes.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Into each rain some life must fall, or however that goes.

One of my nan’s old sayings, that.

 

[PureX]

I don't think the success of the Zionist movement, which began in the 19th century, in obtaining the modern state of Israel from its British owners, and the rarely mentioned dispossession of the Muslim landowners that followed, quite fits with your thesis.

It fits perfectly. They read the text and heard it echo and justify what they already wanted to believe. It didn't "teach" them anything. It just clarified their sense of self-righteousness.

 

[blü 2]

It fits perfectly. They read the text and heard it echo and justify what they already wanted to believe. It didn't "teach" them anything. It just clarified their sense of self-righteousness.

It offered them the politics they use up to this day. Ready-made slogans, God-given rights, if you oppose us you're for Hitler, and so on. And now their boss wants to take the Putin road, do away with judicial review except when it suits Netanyahu ─ how like God is that?!