Homosexual Relationships Are Wrong

[open_mind]

How does your response support your statement: " note:i used the word turned because no man is born homosexual,as it is something against human nature created by GOD." ?



Again, Open Mind, how does your response support your statement: " note:i used the word turned because no man is born homosexual,as it is something against human nature created by GOD."?



Again, Open Mind, I fail to see how your response supports your statement: " note:i used the word turned because no man is born homosexual,as it is something against human nature created by GOD." It is, after all, that statement of yours that I was asking you to support.



You are providing a great deal of information irrelevant to the question you claim to be answering. So, once again, how does your response support your statement: " note:i used the word turned because no man is born homosexual,as it is something against human nature created by GOD."?



Let me be blunt, Open Mind: Are you so disrespectful of others that you take me and every other reader of your post for fools who wouldn't even notice your attempt to avoid answering the question put to you, while you yet claim to answer it? The question I asked (and which you claim to be answering) is, What evidence do you have to support your statement: " note:i used the word turned because no man is born homosexual,as it is something against human nature created by GOD." ?

Can I take your avoidance of that question as a tacit admission that you cannot answer it?

I've just seen your post now,and here's my VERY SIMPLE answer to the easiest question of all:

I gave u evidence that homosexuality is scientifically harmful and even fatal,thats enough to be against God's creation for human nature based on primitiveness

GOD FORBIDS ANYTHING THAT HARMS HUMAN BEINGS
i gave u evidence that homosexuality is scientifically harmful,and thats why God forbids it and thats why its against human nature created by God...
i can't be much clearer!
and believe me,i've just given a brief of the real effects of HS.

 

[michel]

I've just seen your response now,and here's my VERY SIMPLE answer to the easiest question of all:

GOD FORBIDS ANYTHING THAT HARMS HUMAN BEINGS
i gave u evidence that homosexuality is scientifically harmful,and thats why God forbids it...i can't be much clearer!
and believe me,i've just given a brief of the real effects of HS.

Does that include recreational drugs, alcohol, walking across busy streets, Lions, diseases...etc?

 

[Revasser]

my phrase is not literal,i didn't mean that the problem occurs when every person turns homosexual!
i mean that as this act becomes more and more normal(legal) as u people wish,the society will be destroyed gradually.

Yes, and then people will start marrying their dogs and their armchairs! Earthquakes like the footsteps of God shall wrack the continents and fire shall rain from the sky like a million vengeful stars! Forsooth, we must stop the gays before they bring about the fiery destruction of the world with their "love" and their "desire for equal protection under the law."

-Dr Adrian Rogers, president of the Conservative Family Institute, described homosexuality as 'sterile, disease-riddden and God-forsaken'."

Two things. First, the "Conservative Family Institute" is hardly a reputable source for... oh, I don't know... facts. Second, well... I was going to make a witty comment on 'sterile, disease-riddden and God-forsaken', but it really makes fun of itself, doesn't it?

-The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75
* The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 ''Fields, Dr. E. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA. ''

Hah! Let me tell you a little about Marietta's Dr. Edward Fields... Did you know he was responsible for publishing literature called "The Truth At Last", distrubuted by various KKK factions and neo-Nazi groups? Did you also know that he was co-founder of the white-supremacist America First Party? The Anti-Defamation League has a rather interesting profile on Dr. Fields.
I believe we can safely dismiss any "facts" from this particular source.

-Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population

Interesting statistics. I doubt the veracity, however. Is there a reason, perhaps, you did not provide a source?

-Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, "30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals"

Who the heck is Captain Riddle? Where is your source for this?

Regardless, to quote from the American Psychological Association Help Centre website:

"Another myth about homosexuality is the mistaken belief that gay men have more of a tendency than heterosexual men to sexually molest children. There is no evidence to suggest that homosexuals molest children."

 

[Revasser]

. Who did it? The Joker or Two-Face? Or was it the Penguin?:areyoucra

My money's on Lex Luther.

 

[Draka]

GOD FORBIDS ANYTHING THAT HARMS HUMAN BEINGS

Forbidden: meat (not prepared properly carries diseases)
computer screens (extended use can cause eye irritation)
pollution
smoking anything
drinking any alcoholic beverage
sex for any reason except procreation
physically exhausting work
non-physically exhausting work
exposure to the sun
poisonous plants
mosquitos
poisonous spiders
poisonous snakes
ticks
jiggers
paper (production of which depletes trees which provide oxygen)
automobiles (pollute) & therefore: automobile production workers & drivers
pharmaceuticals (side effects and cross effects with other medicines can be deadly)
electricity (can electrocute)
water (can drown)
sleeping as a baby (SIDS is possible)
breathing and sneezing and coughing (tranferrence of germs which carry airborne viruses)


I guess that means our lives in general are forbidden. For we do nothing but harm ourselves by every action we take. :sarcastic

 

[open_mind]

Does that include recreational drugs, alcohol, walking across busy streets, Lions, diseases...etc?

drugs and alcohol:-yes it includes,but we won't open a drug and alcohol discussion here
walking acros busy streets,lions:-come on! i am talking about a lifestyle,you will never throw yourself infront a lion,will u?!
diseases:-this is out of human control!

 

[Draka]

diseases:-this is out of human control!

Then the whole reasoning that homosexuals are more susceptable to or spread certain diseases with more ease, and therefore are harmful to humans, goes right out the window. Defeat your own point why don't you?

 

[open_mind]

Forbidden: meat (not prepared properly carries diseases)
computer screens (extended use can cause eye irritation)
pollution
smoking anything
drinking any alcoholic beverage
sex for any reason except procreation
physically exhausting work
non-physically exhausting work
exposure to the sun
poisonous plants
mosquitos
poisonous spiders
poisonous snakes
ticks
jiggers
paper (production of which depletes trees which provide oxygen)
automobiles (pollute) & therefore: automobile production workers & drivers
pharmaceuticals (side effects and cross effects with other medicines can be deadly)
electricity (can electrocute)
water (can drown)
sleeping as a baby (SIDS is possible)
breathing and sneezing and coughing (tranferrence of germs which carry airborne viruses)


I guess that means our lives in general are forbidden. For we do nothing but harm ourselves by every action we take. :sarcastic

i am talking about fatal harm(self and others) for the sake of pleasure
the points u mentioned are either
- caused due to other necessary activities and its effects are controllable
-suicide and thats surely forbidden

come on people!
i am talking about fatal out of control diseases and many other consequences caused because u just love to have sex with the same gender

 

[Revasser]

drugs and alcohol:-yes it includes,but we won't open a drug and alcohol discussion here
walking acros busy streets,lions:-come on! i am talking about a lifestyle,you will never throw yourself infront a lion,will u?!
diseases:-this is out of human control!

What about people who spend years and years of their lives studying lions in the wild? They're putting themselves in harms way; lions are dangerous creatures!

Does God forbid the scientific study of wild lions?

 

[Draka]

i am talking about fatal harm(self and others) for the sake of pleasure
the points u mentioned are either
- caused due to other necessary activities and its effects are controllable
-suicide and thats surely forbidden

come on people!
i am talking about fatal out of control diseases and many other consequences caused because u just love to have sex with the same gender

first off...cars, paper and much more are for pleasure. They are not necessities. We choose those things and they do eventually cause harm...even fatal...especially in the case of automobiles.

Second...you get HIV/AIDS from a heck of a lot more than just unprotected sex...or even sex with the same gender. Open your mind up to fact deary.

 

[open_mind]

Then the whole reasoning that homosexuals are more susceptable to or spread certain diseases with more ease, and therefore are harmful to humans, goes right out the window. Defeat your own point why don't you?

one of 2 things
1-hahaha,nice joke :clap
2-u did not get it,
EXAMPLE:-disease:-i caught flu and am ill=out of my control
-disease:-i ate some bugs and my stomach was blown away=??????

 

[Revasser]

one of 2 things
1-hahaha,nice joke :clap
2-u did not get it,
EXAMPLE:-disease:-i caught flu and am ill=out of my control
-disease:-i ate some bugs and my stomach was blown away=??????

It is certainly not out of your control. You could wear a mask when you go out and cut down the likelihood or infection, or even better, not go out at all and have no contact with anyone! You could also make sure you eat only food and drink water you have sterilised yourself to avoid stomach bugs.

 

[Draka]

one of 2 things
1-hahaha,nice joke :clap
2-u did not get it,
EXAMPLE:-disease:-i caught flu and am ill=out of my control
-disease:-i ate some bugs and my stomach was blown away=??????

1. not a joke...you really did defeat your own point no matter how you want to deny or cover it up.
2. I got it...you did not. There are fatal diseases out there you have no control over getting. Cancer being one....and no matter what precautions you take...HIV is still one that you can get whether you have sex with the same gender or no sex at all.

And what the crap is that bit about bugs and stomach blown away? Just something to throw people completely off the fact that you are uninformed of what you speak and trying to make me look stupid...well...it backfired big time.

 

[open_mind]

What about people who spend years and years of their lives studying lions in the wild? They're putting themselves in harms way; lions are dangerous creatures!

Does God forbid the scientific study of wild lions?

AGAIN!

1-scientific study of wild lions is a job,its useful,its not 100% sure danger,these people are experienced enough to know how not to a meal for the lion!

2-HS is for pleasure,useless to others,sure danger...etc

 

[Green Gaia]

i am talking about fatal out of control diseases and many other consequences caused because u just love to have sex with the same gender

So by that logic(?) then gays and lesbians who do not have fatal out of control diseases and are therefore not harmed by having sex or loving someone of the same gender, aren't doing anything wrong!

But if we use this same logic(?), straight people who engage in sexual activity with members of the opposite sex and contract fatal out of control diseases prove that God forbids heterosexuality because they are harmed. Brilliant!

 

[open_mind]

first off...cars, paper and much more are for pleasure. They are not necessities. We choose those things and they do eventually cause harm...even fatal...especially in the case of automobiles.

Second...you get HIV/AIDS from a heck of a lot more than just unprotected sex...or even sex with the same gender. Open your mind up to fact deary.

oh sorry i'll open my mind,here u go
-My work place is about 50 miles away from my home,may be i should go jogging next time,how on earth aren't cars a necessity?!

 

[Green Gaia]

2-HS is for pleasure,useless to others,sure danger...etc

Are you talking about HomoSexuality or HeteroSexuality? Because both would apply....

 

[michel]

So by that logic(?) then gays and lesbians who do not have fatal out of control diseases and are therefore not harmed by having sex or loving someone of the same gender, aren't doing anything wrong!

But if we use this same logic(?), straight people who engage in sexual activity with members of the opposite sex and contract fatal out of control diseases prove that God forbids heterosexuality because they are harmed. Brilliant!

Nice one!:clap

 

[Revasser]

AGAIN!

1-scientific study of wild lions is a job,its useful,its not 100% sure danger,these people are experienced enough to know how not to a meal for the lion!

2-HS is for pleasure,useless to others,sure danger...etc

Oh, okay. So it's only going on safaris on vacation for pleasure to see the lions and other dangerous wild animals that is forbidden by God.

 

[Draka]

AGAIN!

1-scientific study of wild lions is a job,its useful,its not 100% sure danger,these people are experienced enough to know how not to a meal for the lion!

2-HS is for pleasure,useless to others,sure danger...etc

I assume by HS you mean homosexuality...for it can certainly mean heterosexuality as well. And as I have already stated...you are completely uninformed. By saying that homosexuality "is for pleasure, useless to others, sure danger...etc" Well, you could apply the same statement to heterosexuality really. But then you don't seem to realize that love is pleasure and emotional necessity at the same time. If you are worthy of love and to love and to be loved, what makes anyone else not worthy of what you find yourself worthy of? Why are you better than homosexual people who want only love? What makes you so special? You seem very ignorant of relationships and love in general...you must be very young. Time will eventually cure your ignorance of relations and emotions...hopefully.