Homosexual Relationships Are Wrong

[open_mind]

Some heterosexuals are fatally harmed by having sex, some are not... due to the harm caused by some... why is heterosexuality not forbidden to all... if we're using your logic, that is?

how can heterosexuality be wrong and its the only way to give birth to a human?
AGAIN
u r talking about something necessary

 

[Mister_T]

i think thats enough for a response

I was just trying to lighten the mood. The point people are trying to make is that you can die and harm yourself from almost anything. Your argument that being gay brings death and disease isn't holding up too well.

 

[Mister_T]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't, Hey? :biglaugh: But you do at least get my point right? L.A. being just an example of a high air pollution area, nothing personal to you Mister_T...I certainly don't want you to stop breathing anytime soon .

I gotcha

 

[Jaymes]

u r talking about something necessary

Some of us find love and not hiding ourselves in a closet necessary.

 

[Green Gaia]

how can heterosexuality be wrong and its the only way to give birth to a human?
AGAIN
u r talking about something necessary

But it harms some people - forbid it!

Besides, we're not talking about reproduction, but someone's sexual orientation. You claim that homosexuals are forbidden because homosexual sex harms some people (usually thru their own unsafe practices), therefore no one should be homosexual. Heterosexual sex undoubtedly harms some people(again usually thru their own unsafe practices), so why isn't the same broad brush of forbidding not used on those who are heterosexual? Why shouldn't those homosexuals who are not harming anyone be allowed to be who they are? Why should they be punished for the stupid acts of others when heterosexuals aren't punished for the stupid acts of other heterosexuals?

 

[Draka]

how can heterosexuality be wrong and its the only way to give birth to a human?
AGAIN
u r talking about something necessary

Okay...since you seem to have no problem with modern inventions (the car), how about in vitro fertilization? This has made the need for heterosexual sex for means of procreation null and void. Heck, even cloning can achieve reproduction. Thus making heterosexuality NOT a necessity as you so define it. Therefore anything that heterosexuals do that can cause the spread of disease makes their actions sinful to god. Forbid them.

 

[Green Gaia]

how can heterosexuality be wrong and its the only way to give birth to a human?

Actually heterosexual intercourse is NOT the only way to give birth: see In Vitro Fertilization

 

[open_mind]

ok i have to go now,and i wanna say this:

i swere i entered this forum and this thread to try to help others,not to just argue personally and not to just prove people wrong.

i'm a new member so i was not allowed to give links thats why i tried my best to give u some brief facts about the danger of homoS.,even if u believe my some of my facts where unreliable i still believe its not,and my biggest evidence is that u didn't manage to say that ALL my facts are wrong,and i think one fact is enough to prove my point that Homosexuality is wrong
i tried to explain that homosexuality is
1-not a necessity
2-scientifically dangerous
3-God-forbidden because its harmful
4-controlling yourself from doing it is possible
but controlling its bad consequences is not possible(for people who didn't understand me when i mentioned controlling diseases)
5-forbidden for all because some are harmed
6-Religion men in JUDAISM,CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM have dismissed such an act,agreeing its harmful and forbidden

 

[Mister_T]

i still believe its not,and my biggest evidence is that u didn't manage to say that ALL my facts are wrong

It's a good thing this type of logic isn't ruling the world. (Or is it Mr. Bush?)

Proving all of your facts to be wrong? I don't know about that.

Proving all of your facts to be baseless and plagued with ignorance?

 

[Draka]

ok i have to go now,and i wanna say this:

i swere i entered this forum and this thread to try to help others,not to just argue personally and not to just prove people wrong.

i'm a new member so i was not allowed to give links thats why i tried my best to give u some brief facts about the danger of homoS.,even if u believe my some of my facts where unreliable i still believe its not,and my biggest evidence is that u didn't manage to say that ALL my facts are wrong,and i think one fact is enough to prove my point that Homosexuality is wrong
i tried to explain that homosexuality is
1-not a necessity neither is heterosexuality unless love is a human necessity
2-scientifically dangerous haven't proved this further than anything else being dangerous
3-God-forbidden because its harmful no basis
4-controlling yourself from doing it is possible so is heterosexual sex...what is your point?
but controlling its bad consequences is not possible(for people who didn't understand me when i mentioned controlling diseases) nor is about any other fatal disease...your point again?
5-forbidden for all because some are harmed haven't been able to support either
6-Religion men in JUDAISM,CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM have dismissed such an act,agreeing its harmful and forbidden and that means jack diddly squat...religion is not biology or science or psychology...it is belief

As for what's in red...just what "FACT" did you present that could possibly prove your point? I saw none.

 

[open_mind]

But it harms some people - forbid it!

Besides, we're not talking about reproduction, but someone's sexual orientation. You claim that homosexuals are forbidden because homosexual sex harms some people (usually thru their own unsafe practices), therefore no one should be homosexual. Heterosexual sex undoubtedly harms some people(again usually thru their own unsafe practices), so why isn't the same broad brush of forbidding not used on those who are heterosexual? Why shouldn't those homosexuals who are not harming anyone be allowed to be who they are? Why should they be punished for the stupid acts of others when heterosexuals aren't punished for the stupid acts of other heterosexuals?

yes u r right,heterosexuals are harmed sometimes because they are having many relationships,having sex (any type) outside marriage is God-forbodden and might cause diseases,but a heterosexual married couple can hardly catch diseases...but this point might open an out of topic conversation (marriage)

 

[Jaymes]

but controlling its bad consequences is not possible

How strange... the worst consequences my girlfriend and I suffer are loneliness from being so far apart from each other.

Repeating yourself ad nauseum is not proving anything.

 

[Draka]

yes u r right,heterosexuals are harmed sometimes because they are having many relationships,having sex (any type) outside marriage is God-forbodden and might cause diseases,but a heterosexual married couple can hardly catch diseases...but this point might open an out of topic conversation (marriage)

Since homosexual marriage would qualify as a homosexual relationship it is still on topic enough to state this much: If a homosexual married couple were to stay faithful to each other it would lesson the chance of disease transmission. same goes for heterosexual marriages...IF they remain faithful. But still there is no gaurantee of HIV free lives. There are other ways it can be transmitted. But the point is that not ALL heterosexuals are married...now are they? So how is what they are doing any worse than homosexuals having sex? They are still harming themselves in a way aren't they? So forbid it.

 

[Green Gaia]

i tried to explain that homosexuality is
1-not a necessity
2-scientifically dangerous
3-God-forbidden because its harmful
4-controlling yourself from doing it is possible
but controlling its bad consequences is not possible(for people who didn't understand me when i mentioned controlling diseases)
5-forbidden for all because some are harmed
6-Religion men in JUDAISM,CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM have dismissed such an act,agreeing its harmful and forbidden

1. neither is heterosexuality
2. not been proven
3. according to whom?
4. same goes for heterosexuality
5. that makes NO sense whatsoever
6. I belong to none of those religions - and I'm a woman; what men in other religions do has little bearing on my life

 

[Mike182]

there are many reported cases of women being raped by hetrosexual men, this is evidence that hetrosexuality is dangerous to women, and is therefor wrong.

open mind, you read my above statement, and tell me if you agree with it - if you do not agree with it, stop posting the silly things you are posting which aquate to the same as my above statement.

 

[open_mind]

there are many reported cases of women being raped by hetrosexual men, this is evidence that hetrosexuality is dangerous to women, and is therefor wrong.

open mind, you read my above statement, and tell me if you agree with it - if you do not agree with it, stop posting the silly things you are posting which aquate to the same as my above statement.

u r talking about a crime(special case),i am talking about a lifestyle

 

[Ori]

u r talking about a crime(special case),i am talking about a lifestyle

By lifestyle, do you mean that this is a choice, that being gay is just a choice?

Is this choice?

http://www.dailyvidette.com/media/storage/paper420/news/2006/02/27/OtherCampus/Recent.Scientific.Research.Show.Evidence.Of.Gay.Gene-1638087.shtml?norewrite200604081750&sourcedomain=www.dailyvidette.com&xmlsyn=1

 

[Mike182]

u r talking about a crime(special case),i am talking about a lifestyle

a woman does not choose to be raped, she has no choice in the matter

as far as i am concerned, homosexual orientations are not chosen. although you are hetrosexual, you do not choose what type of girls you are attracted to, you jsut are - same thing

edit: if it were as simple as "i think im going to be gay" it would also be as simple to just go "i think im going to be straight from now on" - if this were true, how come the countless gay people who have been bullied, beaten up, even killed for their sexuality didn't realise it would be easier to just not be gay, and change :sarcastic

 

[open_mind]

if heterosexuality is not a necessity,we all wouldn't have been present!
u will say vitro fertilization,that was not possible before several years ago
do u wanna convince me that God can accept the fact that vitro fertilization can replace the normal way of reproduction after all these ages

 

[Mike182]

if heterosexuality is not a necessity,we all wouldn't have been present!

you saying thats a good thing?